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Thread: How to begin canyoneering
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06-22-2012, 03:26 PM #21
Ahh come on that was genius and perfectly quotes you. "Don't go with people who will teach you for free, you will die, pay me $300 cause I'm a pro". And I gave you the Ahhhnold voice to boot!
Whatevs, I see you cried like a baby to the mods and they edited it for you. Problem solved.Your safety is not my responsibility.
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06-22-2012 03:26 PM # ADS
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06-22-2012, 03:40 PM #22
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06-22-2012, 03:41 PM #23Your safety is not my responsibility.
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06-22-2012, 03:41 PM #24
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06-22-2012, 03:57 PM #25
For the record DeathCricket is one of the coolest people on and off of this website. I am not an expert on Canyoneering (or hardly anything for that matter) but I can say that I trust him completely and greatly enjoy his company.
"My heart shall cry out for Moab..." Isaiah 15:5
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06-22-2012, 04:06 PM #26
Maybe to YOU, DiscGo. To me, he is an complete and utter jerk, but he HAS singled me out for his jerkiness.
I AM an expert on canyoneering, and have done a canyon with DeathCricket (which was fun, no problems). But, he is a beginner, does not have good judgement, and it would be a mistake to trust him with your safety in a technical canyoneering environment. There are lots of people out there who are trustworthy and safe - and members of Bogley. Hook up with one of them (in the canyoneering sense).
Tom
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06-22-2012, 04:45 PM #27
I have absolutely nothing to add since I'm also a canyoneering noob, but this is probably the best thread I've read so far!
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06-22-2012, 04:56 PM #28
"As long as we're slinging advice to strangers, please consider adding a suitable (ideally CE/UIAA rated) helmet to your list of equipment - and then wear it."
Think about how much your brain is worth to you, then spend about that much on a helmet.
Seriously though, welcome to Bogley
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06-22-2012, 04:56 PM #29
Hi Sarah
You could contact Blueeyes on this forum, I hear she has a trip going out next Friday(29)
Rumor has it she might have a spot, not sure, you'll have to ask her.
I've also heard members of her group may have extra gear, such as helmets.
Maybe she has a full crew Worth a shot....
How much rappeling experience do you have?
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06-22-2012, 05:13 PM #30
I agree! Tom is pro, we did a canyon together 4 years ago and I have learned zero since then. I am a complete noob. I also agree that I am very dangerous and it's only a matter of time before someone gets hurt on one of my trips. I'm very lucky to have done this for so long and had zero injuries, ever, with anyone in my party of noobs. Speaking of getting hurt and breaking bones, hope your broken arm is all healed up Tom.
Your safety is not my responsibility.
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06-22-2012, 05:20 PM #31
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06-22-2012, 05:53 PM #32
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06-22-2012, 06:12 PM #33
The important distinction here is that you are not starting from zero. If you have been on rope before, that is a big help.
Just to be clear because the is more than one interpretation available of what you mean by "the system" (your rappel device -or- the rope for the group)...
Did you set up your rappel device yourself? Do you know how to set up your rappel device for a couple different sizes of ropes?
Tom
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06-22-2012, 06:46 PM #34
Yes, in the context of rock climbing. And the few times when I've climbed outside I did not set the rope.
It's been awhile since I've climbed, I'm trying to remember exactly what I did and didn't do. Climbing doesn't hold as much appeal for me; you get to the top and then you come back down, but you don't actually go anywhere, or explore much. Then again I'm an incredible novice...
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06-22-2012, 07:54 PM #35Originally Posted by Deathcricket
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06-22-2012, 08:33 PM #36
Off topic a bit, but is anyone else surprised how much Ratagonia and Deathcricket don't get a long? For you new comers this is kind of a long time bad relationship, but most people on Bogley get along fine.
"My heart shall cry out for Moab..." Isaiah 15:5
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06-23-2012, 07:20 AM #37
Just get permits for one of the canyons that requires them and you will have plenty of takers. You can screen them then based on previous broken limbs, calls to SAR, etc. I think Tanya included a "beware of" section in her book with both of their pictures.....
"mostly retired?" Ratagonia what is up with that?
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06-23-2012, 07:49 AM #38
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06-23-2012, 08:07 AM #39
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06-23-2012, 08:19 AM #40
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