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05-06-2012, 04:22 PM #21
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05-06-2012 04:22 PM # ADS
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05-07-2012, 12:34 PM #22
Pothole escaping and the variety of techniques used is one of my favorite aspects of canyoneering. One thing not mentioned above is the use of extendable poles, (without drilling or picking). The photos below show a deep keeper in Quandary Direct in low water condition. Mike used a pole (an extendable golf ball retriever with the end removed) and some duct tape to place a hook with webbing and an etrier hanging from it. Obviously, after the first person escapes, there are easier ways to get everyone else past the obstacle but we each practiced the technique as if we were soloing or were first man in. I cannot remember if this one was a swimmer or if we could stand on the bottom.
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05-07-2012, 01:21 PM #23
Back to Neon Conditions:
Was down Neon way this past weekend - 5/6/2012. Lots of folks in the Hood. Before, there
were many conflicting conditions reports - prompting me to clarify.
Malia, Dean and crew went up in at the Tri-borough Bridges, and found water up
there worthy of wet suits. Perhaps they would add to this report.
We rapped in at the "Tree entrance", which is above the More Fun and Fork Chop
entrances. We found very little water in Neon. There was one brief swim before
Fork Chop, then one brief swim after Keeper Pothole #2. The rap at the Cathedral
landed in waist-deep water.
Unlike most canyons, because of the multiple entrances, the Keepers in Neon are
usually discussed from the bottom up. So "The Neon Keeper" is the one right
before the Cathedral. It was knee deep at entrance, and has a lot of gravel
washed in, so most people can exit with a little help or on their own mantling
abilities.
Keeper #2 is between the More Fun and the Sport entrance, and is dry. Yields
easily to a partner boost with a pack toss rope to help with getting over the
lip. There is also the option of climbing out and rapping off the bolt up there
back into the canyon; or stemming over and sliding down; or stemming over and
dropping a weighted pack or potshot; or climbing out and over to the bolt,
hopping to the other side and walking the bench downcanyon to the moki steps,
which avoids the swim.
There were Cedar gnats at the trailhead, and just a few lower down. No
significant biting bugs further in, but some kind of leaf-muncher was working
the cottonwoods at the mouth of neon, and dropping down upon our camp there, and
crawling all over the tents. Fully-sealed tents highly recommended.
The Escalante River was higher than expected, and we had to hunt for (and we
found) stream crossings that did not knock us over, but were perhaps up to waist
deep. The water seemed higher in the afternoon and evening, but back down by
morning. Water quality was particularly murky in the evening - not sure why. A
little higher water and I would want to drybag my pack before attempting a
crossing.
Webbing at the Cathedral was as usual excessive, but most looked very new. Mike
replaced the worn piece at the end. Looks like someone had pulled their rope
through it - it was cut through about 1/3 of the way! No ring in place. People
had used this an hour before we got there - sc-a-a-a-a-a-a-ary! Don't do that!
Mike extended it to get a good pull / minimize rope grooves and put a big fat
rapid link on it.
If'n you head down there, don't expect to have it to yourself, and do be
prepared to play well with others. Thanks.
Tom
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05-07-2012, 04:44 PM #24
Tom
Thanks for the report. Headed in there next weekend.
Ken
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05-08-2012, 07:04 AM #25
Tom, were wetsuits necessary for the route you did?
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05-08-2012, 07:13 AM #26
No wetsuits needed, from where we went in down.
Tom
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05-08-2012, 07:49 AM #27
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05-08-2012, 08:27 AM #28
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05-08-2012, 08:43 AM #29
As I am not familiar with Neon (this will be my first time through), could you please provide a bit more info on the upper section Malia and Dean went through? I have read the beta on your website about the middle section, which requires one hike an extra mile above the normal drop in. Is this what you are referring to? Do you have a GPS waypoint to the upper drop in? Are there any substantial obstacles (potholes, down-climbs, rappels)? Anchors?
Thanks!!!
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05-08-2012, 09:01 AM #30
I like to leave quite a bit of adventure available for those who seek it out, so you may find my answer unsatisfactory.
Above the More Fun entrance, and above the Fork Chop entrance, there are quite a few more ways to get in. My Map #152 incorrectly shows the More Fun entrance as being up at the Fork Chop entrance. Both are walk-ins. I am working on a new version of that map that will "give a little more away".
Caution must be exercised because, if rapping into the canyon, the floor of the canyon is likely more than 100 feet down (the length of ropes you are likely to have). Malia and Dean went up to the Tri-borough Bridges, which Ram has taken me to, but I have only a vague idea of how to get there, mostly based on these photos:
http://www.canyoneeringcentral.com/ravearchive/mar02/
Ram's walk-in route in is intricate; even if I knew it, I might not be able to describe it.
Yes there are substantial obstacles, though most are pretty mild, and no rappels longer than 100 feet.
Some people have suggested that hiking the bench on the southeast side of the canyon offers easier access to the upper canyon.
That's all I got for you...
Tom
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05-08-2012, 09:13 AM #31
Thanks Tom. The pictures are helpful. I am always up for an adventure and we will have more than enough rope to safely drop into the canyon (100', 200', 300'). We will have to see what time permits and will be prepared for the upper section.
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05-09-2012, 12:24 PM #32
map 152
Tom,
Where can I find your maps (map #152)? I've searched for it in Bogley and I've looked around your website as well, to no avail.
Thanks, Chris
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05-09-2012, 12:30 PM #33
I imagine this is the map Tom is referring to, http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/arch/152cneon.jpg, which can be purchased here, http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/arch/index.htm.
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05-09-2012, 12:43 PM #34
Wow, that's still there? Yikes!!!
We are in the process of building out a much better website, where people can actually find things.
Maps for sale: http://canyoneeringusa.com/shop/home.php?cat=111
Or Download: http://canyoneeringusa.com/utah/intro/mapcenter.php
I have a new version of that map releasing today.
Tom
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05-09-2012, 01:10 PM #35
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05-09-2012, 06:01 PM #36
Tom
The new maps are sweet.
Thanks. Very timely. Trip report to follow.
Ken
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05-09-2012, 08:33 PM #37
Tom,
Thanks for the new map. Killer. Wondering how long it took you to run the canyon from the tree entrance. Looking to do a day slog from Egypt trailhead. Hoping to have enough time to mosey down the river to check out some art when we get out. Much obliged.
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05-09-2012, 09:50 PM #38
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05-02-2013, 12:01 AM #39
Neon Sculptures
Thanks jon for sharing great info.. i really love this types of Neon posts you have adding great lovely images. it is really awesome
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05-02-2013, 01:01 PM #40
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