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04-08-2012, 08:48 AM #1
Angel Cove Main Fork and White Roost
Made a quick trip to Hanksville and played in a few canyons while we were there. The first day we did Angel Cove main fork. Someone placed chains where the webbing use to be and attached a hand line at most of the drops. We did find a dead deer inside the canyon with a nice set of antlers and wondered why and how it ended up there.
The last two rappels were amazing with the view of the Dirty Devil river in the distance.
The second day we did White Roost. This canyon was alot narrower than Angel Cove and had alot of awkward rappels. Most of these could have been down climbed but we chose to rappel them since the webbing was there and in good shape. The only water in the canyon was at the last rappel and it was only ankle deep.
Both days were alot of fun and we can hardly wait for the next trip.
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04-08-2012 08:48 AM # ADS
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04-08-2012, 10:06 AM #2
Nice, thanks for the TR and pics.
Tom
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04-08-2012, 05:00 PM #3
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04-08-2012, 08:23 PM #4
Nice pics James. We still should meet up some time and hit some canyons. I did Quandary direct on Friday and it was awesome.
Duane
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04-08-2012, 09:32 PM #5
Duane,
I'm game. Send me a PM when you would like to go. I have time off during the week and plenty of vacation I could use.
James
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04-09-2012, 01:29 PM #6
When the main fork of Angel Cove was first published in Dave's minislot guide, there were ropes with knots placed along the length of the ropes at each drop, presumably to be used as handlines to go up the canyon.
The ropes have been removed, at least once, and reappeared shortly after.
It would be a civilized stance to leave the ropes and their chains alone since apparently someone who is not a traditional canyoneer and most likely not a member of this community is using this canyon for their own purposes.
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04-09-2012, 02:36 PM #7
How did that deer get there? Hmm...
I'm going to guess the deer got distracted while rappelling and took his brakehoof off the rope.
He probably would have been fine if he had remembered to wear his bucking helmet.
Seriously, Nice TR and pics! Thanks for sharing!
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04-09-2012, 06:13 PM #8
Thats what we were thinking.
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04-09-2012, 07:28 PM #9
There are people who paraglide (or parachute, or whatever) off the cliffs there and upclimb the canyon to go do it again. We met a group of them a couple of years ago, just as they were starting up back up to the plateau. They told us they had a local friend who set the ropes for them. I got the impression that it was pretty common for them to do that.
Deb
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04-09-2012, 07:32 PM #10
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04-10-2012, 06:55 AM #11
I think it would be easier and faster to hike out than to climb back up the canyon using the ropes. But what do I know..
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04-10-2012, 08:22 AM #12
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04-10-2012, 10:30 AM #13
There are people who choose to live harsh, mean-spirited, closed minded, and short sighted lives. They really aren't worth arguing with.
I believe that most of the Bogley community and most of the canyoneering community at large are gentle and compassionate people who, if made aware of a situation, would let other people recreate in the manner that they choose. I believe the majority of people are open to the idea that there are many different uses for our public lands, that there are uses that pre-date the infant sport of canyoneering, and that others have as many rights and privileges as ourselves.
Penny
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04-10-2012, 11:00 AM #14
Excused me... but it was first published to the general public on Climb-Utah and beat the Mini Slot Guide out by a couple of weeks.... not that it really matters...
My concern with this stance is trash has a terrible habit of attracting more trash. One bolt/chain/rope this year and 5 next year, and 10 the next.
The only two solutions are zero tolerance or prolific bolts/chains/ropes... pick your poison.
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04-10-2012, 11:26 AM #15
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04-10-2012, 11:42 AM #16
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/Rec...__outdoor.html
Originally Posted by BLM
Originally Posted by Leave No Trace
Tom (harsh, mean-spirited, closed-minded, and short-sighted)
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04-10-2012, 12:34 PM #17
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04-10-2012, 08:28 PM #18
There's a fairly high risk of being summarily executed by jumping into this fray - but here goes.
The equipment left behind in the canyon has a clear purpose & function in the mind of those who left it, even though it probably does violate the "Leave No trace" ethic encouraged by the BLM. In other words, to them, it is not "trash." If the canyoneering community takes it upon itself to unilaterally remove this equipment, it will likely prompt a response from the other user group of replacing it and a "turf" war may develop between the two groups. The "Leave No trace" policy is incumbent upon us as individuals to "practice" but I don't see it in the policy Tom provided that we are to regard ourselves as "enforcers." This is an important deliniation to recognize. Enforcement is the duty & function of the duly appointed BLM. Therefore, IN THIS CASE, I would think it best to report the equipment to the BLM and let them decide how best to enforce their policy. This would hopefully avoid any clash between the user groups involved. Ultimately, as canyoneers, we would hope the BLM would attempt to apprehend the other user group and explain to them the "Leave No Trace" ethic; remove the offending equipment and suggest the non-technical escape route out to the other group. They do have a "right" to use the same lands for different purposes and they are not obligated to ascend or descend the canyon in the same manner as we would want. But, I don't think the BLM expects us to be the self-appointed enforcers of their policies - again, IN THIS CASE. Let's let the BLM do their job.
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