The Super Amazing Canyoneering Map

[Redpb]

I've tried to send Shane two messages but they aren't showing up in my sent box. Hopefully he got them.

[Iceaxe]

Check you PM's.

FWIW: To get sent PM's to show up in your sent folder:

Settings >> General Settings >> Sent Private Message.

And click the box that says to save a copy.

[rurri]

I would say they are useful if you can work out an agreement to share them.
The Spry canyon overlay would have saved us quite a bit of time when we went a bit too far in on the approach.

[Slot Machine]

VERSION 8 OF THE MAP IS NOW AVAILABLE.

Bob

[Slot Machine]

Does anyone know the name of this canyon? It looks like a pain to get to, but based on the surrounding canyons it is probably worth the effort.



N 37 34' 22" W 111 03' 31"

[Slot Machine]

VERSION 9 OF THE MAP IS NOW AVAILABLE!

Some of my past updates consisted of so-so canyons that were rather boring to collect; this update has a couple of gems. (See the first post of this thread for details.)

Special thanks to one intrepid individual that contributed to this update!

Bob

[TKPH]

Speaking of gems, it looks to me like the West Fork of Gem Canyon and the Middle Fork of Gem Canyon, San Rafael Swell, Utah, are reversed.

Am I the only one who gets every canyon name twice?

TKPH

[Slot Machine]

Speaking of gems, it looks to me like the West Fork of Gem Canyon and the Middle Fork of Gem Canyon, San Rafael Swell, Utah, are reversed.

Am I the only one who gets every canyon name twice?

TKPH

There could be a mixup with the Gem Canyons. Please post the correct locations on this thread, then I will fix them in the next version. Thanks!

If you are seeing the names twice, you probably have the map installed twice on Google Earth. Delete one of them. Send me a PM if this doesn't work.

[summitseeker]

Amazing! Thanks for the hard work!

Now if we could just link these to a detailed, step-by-step, beta with video tutorials. . .

[TKPH]

Replace lines 6713 through 6743.

OLD:

<Placemark>
<name>Gem Canyon (middle fork)</name>
<LookAt>
<longitude>-111.0355580330981</longitude>
<latitude>38.7221744102253</latitude>
<altitude>0</altitude>
<heading>-1.200332360766247</heading>
<tilt>0</tilt>
<range>2429.068075250994</range>
<gx:altitudeMode>relativeToSeaFloor</gx:altitudeMode>
</LookAt>
<styleUrl>#msn_ylw-pushpin72000</styleUrl>
<Point>
<coordinates>-111.0348895056062,38.72269318719971,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>
<Placemark>
<name>Gem Canyon (west fork)</name>
<LookAt>
<longitude>-111.0337931560853</longitude>
<latitude>38.71675068105115</latitude>
<altitude>0</altitude>
<heading>-1.199228647468323</heading>
<tilt>0</tilt>
<range>4496.161773682313</range>
</LookAt>
<styleUrl>#msn_ylw-pushpin72000</styleUrl>
<Point>
<coordinates>-111.0300079117312,38.7171172630776,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>

NEW:

<Placemark>
<name>Gem Canyon (middle fork)</name>
<LookAt>
<longitude>-111.0337931560853</longitude>
<latitude>38.71675068105115</latitude>
<altitude>0</altitude>
<heading>-1.199228647468323</heading>
<tilt>0</tilt>
<range>4496.161773682313</range>
</LookAt>
<styleUrl>#msn_ylw-pushpin72000</styleUrl>
<Point>
<coordinates>-111.0300079117312,38.7171172630776,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>
<Placemark>
<name>Gem Canyon (west fork)</name>
<LookAt>
<longitude>-111.0355580330981</longitude>
<latitude>38.7221744102253</latitude>
<altitude>0</altitude>
<heading>-1.200332360766247</heading>
<tilt>0</tilt>
<range>2429.068075250994</range>
<gx:altitudeMode>relativeToSeaFloor</gx:altitudeMode>
</LookAt>
<styleUrl>#msn_ylw-pushpin72000</styleUrl>
<Point>
<coordinates>-111.0348895056062,38.72269318719971,0</coordinates>
</Point>
</Placemark>

[Slot Machine]

Replace lines 6713 through 6743.

OLD:

<Placemark>
<name>Gem Canyon (middle fork)</name>
<LookAt>
<longitude>-111.0355580330981</longitude>
<latitude>38.7221744102253</latitude>
<altitude>0</altitude>
<heading>-1.200332360766247</heading>
<tilt>0</tilt> .....

Huh?

Sir, you have mistaken me for a programmer.

Please fill in the blanks:

Gem Canyon Middle fork is actually here: [ longitude , latitude ]
Gem Canyon West fork is actually here: [ longitude , latitude ]

[Slot Machine]

VERSION 10 OF THE MAP IS NOW AVAILABLE!

FWIW, when you Google 'Canyoneering Map', this thread is now the #1 hit, making it convenient to find canyons on your smartphone when you are heading out to the desert (if there is cell coverage, of course).
Thanks to those that contributed to this update!

Bob

[hesse15]

Wow this map is amazing. I can't wait to get out and try some canyons. Sandthrax sounds like a cool adventure. Good to finally see where the classics like Choprock and Imlay are. Little Wild Horse was soooo much fun, I can't wait to try something a little harder.

this deserve the full range of emoticons (i missed them so much!!!)



i know was a joke but i love to use the emoticons, nothing personal !!!

[Slot Machine]

Version 11 of The Map is now available!

Special thanks to @Prof. Krunkelton for his assistance with this update.

Bob

[Deathcricket]

Hey just wanted to say thanks for all the updates man, you rock.

[Iceaxe]

Awesome Thanks for all the hard work.

It would be nice if there was a list of the canyons added with each revision. Perhaps when you post the update message to Bogley you could list the new additons.

Also, I just emailed you a truck load of beta you can start adding to Version 12. I didn't want you to get bored.

[Slot Machine]

Awesome Thanks for all the hard work.

Yeah, no problem! I hope everyone enjoys it!

It would be nice if there was a list of the canyons added with each revision. Perhaps when you post the update message to Bogley you could list the new additons.

Well, with every other version there has been an update list on page 1 of this thread. However, this update was just too big to do that. I'll tell you that I added 110 Grand Canyon waypoints, 5 in Colorado, ~10 in Idaho, a couple in Oregon, maybe 40 in Arizona, and 3 or 4 around Escalante.

Placing waypoints is easy. Organizing them and making them look good (alphabetized, level, centered, due north, at an aesthetically pleasing altitude) takes a lot of time. Open the brand new Grand Canyon folder. Then double click each canyon on the list in any order. Notice how they move nicely from one canyon to the next? That's not automated. Or on accident. This update took me about 10 hours.

By the time I got to listing them all, they were all mixed in with the other canyons. And I stopped giving a crap.

Anyway, thanks for the truckload of beta! I'll start checking it out as soon as I recover!
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Sidebar: I know almost nothing about Grand Canyon or canyoneering in AZ. There might be errors on the map in those areas. If you are from AZ please take a glance and let me know if anything needs to be moved. Thanks.

[burnsdye]

Hey Slot Machine, Awesome map!

If you create a network link in your kml file then you can update the original and it will automatically be updated for everyone without them having to download it every time there is an update.

An example from my site: http://dyeclan.com/outdooractivities/?view=map

The kml is: http://dyeclan.com/docs/dyeclan.com%...Activities.kml


Code for kml that people download:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<kml xmlns="http://www.opengis.net/kml/2.2" xmlns:gx="http://www.google.com/kml/ext/2.2" xmlns:kml="http://www.opengis.net/kml/2.2" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
<NetworkLink>
<name>Dye Clan - Outdoor Activities</name>
<visibility>1</visibility>
<open>0</open>
<description>dyeclan.com outdoor activities (this kml will automatically be updated as new locations are added to the site.)
</description>
<Link>
<href>http://dyeclan.com/includes/kmloutdooractivities.php</href>
</Link>
</NetworkLink>
</kml>

You just change the <href> field to point to your kml.

Also, you said that it takes you a lot of time to set the zoom, order, north, and folders for each canyon. This may save you some time:
I put all of my info (name, latitude, longitude, icon type, etc.) into an excel spreadsheet
Then I upload it to a mysql database
Then I run a php script to generate the kml file on the fly (the folders, zoom, icons, pictures, etc. are all created automatically)

If this is something you are interested in, I would be willing to help. I could probably convert your map to this system in 2-3 hours.

Let me know.

[Slot Machine]

Hey Slot Machine, Awesome map!

Thanks for the kind words! I've checked out your site before, it's great! You guys get out a lot!

If this is something you are interested in, I would be willing to help. I could probably convert your map to this system in 2-3 hours.

Let me know.

This is very generous of you. A drunk fourth-grader could outprogram me any day, so I really don't understand how to accomplish what you are suggesting. (picture a chimp sticking pushpins into a map, that's me )

However, my buddy is building a website for me, and I'm sure he knows how to accomplish what you are saying.

The part about updating the map on the fly... well, it is a complete mess between updates. Guesses, stuff I'm researching, stuff that needs to be double-checked or moved. It's a sad sight. It probably shouldn't be available to everyone as it is worked on.

However, I'm VERY interested in the spreadsheet idea. I'm sick of organizing the data. 100 canyons? Easy. 800 canyons? Migraine.

Let me get my website fired up and I'll get back to you. Thanks again!

Bob

[Sombeech]

Just an update; easy way to get to this map by clicking the box in the sidebar from any Canyoneering thread:



Thanks for the great work on this map!