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04-23-2017, 10:39 PM #181
http://canyoncollective.com/threads/...t-slots.24596/
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04-23-2017, 10:41 PM #182
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04-23-2017, 10:45 PM #183
The Super Amazing Canyoneering Map
Shane, you're not paying attention. The canyons posted in the link were published BEFORE bobs trip ended THIS year and he had a chance to publish them.
Indeed after his descents but BEFORE his publication.
Just a little consistency. Not whining
I'm out
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04-23-2017, 10:49 PM #184
All I can go by is what I can research, you keep pointing me to a post from last week.
So what am I missing?
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04-23-2017, 11:17 PM #185
I don't have a dog in this fight, but the one labeled Lion has definitely been published before. It is in many books/websites dating back more than two decades.
Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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04-23-2017, 11:31 PM #186
Dudes.
I made up the names in 2015.
We did three of them in 2016, Lion, Tiger and Cheetah.
I did not know them by any other names, and didn't even realize that Kelsey used a particular name for Lion (I thought he used a generic name, and it sort of is). I like Lion better, so I use Lion.
This year we did a bunch of them, April 1st - April 9th. Again, the new ones we did not know by any other names. I still don't, because I haven't read whatever you guys are freaking out about (because I don't care). It was a pretty awesome trip, and we used our names countless times, so I will forever know them by those names.
Feel free to call them whatever you like. Don't matter to me.
What does matter to me? Having fun. If you were having more fun than us, THEN I'd be concerned.
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04-23-2017, 11:47 PM #187I did not know them by any other names, and didn't even realize that Kelsey used a particular name for Lion (I thought he used a generic name, and it sort of is). I like Lion better, so I use Lion.
The canyon has been published in at least 11 books and many websites, dating back to at least 1988.
For the Navajo name, here is the screen shot of the 7.5 quad:
Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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04-24-2017, 08:11 AM #188
edit-see below
Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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04-24-2017, 08:14 AM #189
@Iceaxe Just to clarify whats being said is the Bob went on a trip last year and he posted the ones he calls Lion, Tiger, and Cheetah, and you are correct, those routes have never been publicly betaed under any other name although Bob is aware of them. The link in question posted 4-10-17 is of three canyons that we didn't do last year, we did them this year and the post is from before he published them.
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04-24-2017, 08:39 AM #190
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04-24-2017, 05:36 PM #191
Here's a quick and handy reference for those playing along at home and all those who have been to upper West before (so you know what canyon is being referred to):
Porcupine- Hall of Horrors
Cheetah- Happy Ending
Lynx- not previously explored
Leopard- Amnesia
Tiger- Arch Rival
Lion- Upper West Narrows
Ocelot- Humble Beginnings
Sabertooth- Cosmar (Romanian for "nightmare")
Bobcat- Full House
I will also post this list on the Upper West beta thread for reference.
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04-24-2017, 06:05 PM #192
I don't care what name you use, that looks like an awesome canyoneering buffet.
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04-24-2017, 07:18 PM #193
Well this is interesting! I've been all over West Canyon over the years on backpack trips, mostly over Cummings Mesa and a few from the lake. Done the slot twice, 2000 and 2003. Mike told me there was a keeper in there but both times it was tippy top full.
We always assumed that that Navajo name was for a very large pothole that is a few hundred yards up canyon from where the slot begins...sheep could get to it. It never occurred to us that they named the slot.
We found an exit from West directly across from the entry from the Mesa...where you see "hogan" on the map. That was a nine night backpack from Rainbow Bridge to Kaibito Creek. There's also an old sheep trail along the cliffs of Cummings Mesa that bypasses the narrows...but who'd wanna do that? The sheep, I reckon...Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
It all goes slo-mo
I don't know why I am crying
Am I suspended in Gaffa?
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04-24-2017, 08:59 PM #194We always assumed that that Navajo name was for a very large pothole that is a few hundred yards up canyon from where the slot begins...sheep could get to it. It never occurred to us that they named the slot.
Now, in a strange turn of events; after some more digging, I found that the true meaning of the word Nashdoi is actually bobcat.
See the source below:
https://glosbe.com/en/nv/wildcat
Apparently tii can also mean route or path, so the part of the name on the map "Nashdoi Tii" might translate to "Route of the Bobcat" or "Bobcat Route". I couldn't find anything on Yiyiisxini. Tii's with the apostrophe and "s" means water or cottonwood, so that is another possibility for tii if the word was meant to have an apostrophe. "Bobcat Water" is yet another possibility.
It appears that Bob (Slot Machine) was actually onto something; he just chose the wrong cat for the wrong canyon.
Personally, I'd suggest moving the name Bobcat Route (or Nashdoi-the Navajo word for bobcat) to the Upper Slot as it might even be accurate (even if it does refer to the pothole at the slot head).
I don't think anyone could object to having the upper slot named Bobcat since that might actually be the true name for the slot (though I like the Navajo word Nashdoi), or at least the closest officially named landmark.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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04-24-2017, 09:22 PM #195Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
It all goes slo-mo
I don't know why I am crying
Am I suspended in Gaffa?
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04-24-2017, 11:14 PM #196
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04-24-2017, 11:31 PM #197
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04-25-2017, 02:39 PM #198
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04-25-2017, 02:55 PM #199The USGS, the folks who printed the map, go a long way out of their way to avoid apostrophes.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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04-26-2017, 06:00 PM #200
For Slotmachine...
Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
It all goes slo-mo
I don't know why I am crying
Am I suspended in Gaffa?
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