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    Hans Kammerlander climbs Seven Second Summits

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    I wonder how long until someone would accomplished this feat.

    While a lot of people have now climbed the Seven Summits, no one had managed to do the Second Seven Summits. Parly because this ultimate tick-list of peaks is way harder and more dangerous than the Seven Summits, which includes walk-ups like Kilimanjaro in Africa, Aconcagua in South American, and Mount Elbrus in Europe.

    The Second Seven Summit list, however, is tough. For starters K2, one of the most dangerous mountains in the world, has to be climbed, along with Mount Kenya, a rock climbing peak, and Mount Logan in Canada, one of the coldest mountains in the world.

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    Looks like he still actually has a couple to go (snicker).

    Having climbed Mount Logan (yeah, the "real" summit, believe me, settling for less would have been a whole lot easier on summit day, which was 22 hours), I find it hard to understand how he got confused which was which. Yeah, its a long ridge, but, the summits are very distinctive.

    Anyhoo...interesting...

    http://www.8000ers.com/cms/en/news-m...ven-facts.html

    When Hans Kammerlander ascended Mount Tyree on January 3rd, 2012, he claimed to be the first person, who finished the so-called "Seven Second Summits". Two days later a German journalist contacted 8000ers.com and asked for facts about Mount Logan’s summits. After several climbers and experts compared Kammerlander's summit photo with the ones from some other mountaineers (one example), who were on the Main-Peak before and after his ascent it appeared that he only climbed the about 2,35 km (1,46 miles) distant and 34 metres lower West-Peak.


    In his recent lectures he stated that he will fly over the mountain in May to prove, if he really was on the wrong peak and if he confirms the error for himself then he will climb Mount Logan again, this time to the Main-Peak.

    Unnecessarily the subject became unpleasant, when a user of an Austrian forum asked if Kammerlander was cheating with his “Seven Second Summits” program. This was not very kind indeed, because surely Kammerlander believed that he was on all seven true summits, when he announced his finishing of the set. But his written reaction in the same forum was also far from being diplomatic, when he named the writer “desk culprit” and the journalist “rude and arrogant”. If a well-known mountaineer wants to be the world's first, who finished a defined set of mountains, which should be recognized by the climbing community and which results in commercial success, then the climbing community should be allowed to ask for confidence, if there are doubts. With unkind comments an error by accident is not corrected. The opposite is the case, he should be thankful, when someone wants to help him to finish the set correctly. As known from personal communication it was the intention of the journalist to contact Kammerlander, not to cause a scandal or for similar reasons. It will be interesting to know Kammerlander's statement, after he confirmed his error for himself.

    Unfortunately there are also serious doubts about another mountain of Kammerlander’s climbing program. Since the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission (SRTM) data are available it appeared that Puncak Trikora in New Guinea is not the second highest mountain of Oceania. Another mountain named Puncak Mandala is about 30 metres higher according to the SRTM data. This is well documented in detail on the English version of Wikipedia since November 12th, 2011 and the new approximate altitude was noted since more than six years on this site. Before a climbing program begins or at least before it is announced as being finished it would be better to prove and confirm all facts in detail.

    Report (in German)


    As a result it seems that Kammerlander has climbed only five of the seven so far, but also his rival Christian Stangl has only five, not six, as he claims. He notes on his website that he climbed Ngga Pulu as the second highest “mountain” of Oceania, but at first this is not a separate mountain. The col to the Carstensz Pyramid is only about 200 metres lower than the top of the peak. It would be the same if he had climbed the East-Peak of Elbrus as the second highest “mountain” of Europe (as accepted by the Seven Summits community; the true European HP should be Mont Blanc). In addition Ngga Pulu's ice cap was melting over the years and now it is lower than two other Carstensz ridge peaks. So it disqualifies for more than one reason. Stangl still have chances to be the first who climbed the true “Seven Second Summits”, but also other mountaineers could win this “race” before Kammerlander and Stangl, maybe British climber Sean James, who already climbed four of the seven.

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