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04-11-2011, 01:46 PM #1
What's Below the Subway Question
I have been down the top to bottom route of the Subway a couple of times. I am planning to go again in late June.
My question, though, is: what is found on down the Left Fork below the lava flow exit trail up to the car park and highway? Is it passable for hikers down to where it crosses the highway? Apparently something blocks the passage requiring the exit hike up the steep lava exit...
Thanks, was just curious.Only Dead Fish Go With The Flow
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04-11-2011 01:46 PM # ADS
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04-11-2011, 03:34 PM #2
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04-11-2011, 04:38 PM #3
Before the guidebooks came out (and when I was still a kid), we used to enter the North Creek Drainage (both Left and Right Forks) via a rugged route at Grapevine Spring. Grapevine Spring itself is quite impressive (big hanging gardens over the cliffs), but below the confluence of Right Fork, there really isn't much to see along North Creek.
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that in more recent years you aren't supposed to visit Grapevine Spring anymore, but I can't remember where I read or heard that. Check with the rangers at the visitor center. Or maybe Tom knows?Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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04-11-2011, 04:42 PM #4
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04-11-2011, 05:04 PM #5
I've got some pics, just not sure where, I'll look.
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04-11-2011, 05:14 PM #6
Heres a shot looking up Left fork from just above the confluence with the right.
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04-11-2011, 05:44 PM #7
I had not heard that they had shut it, ever, as there is still a trail sign and a parking lot, but... there is a highly endangered snail that lives on Grapevine Spring. I am not sure why they would have a trail down to the spring except for the Park Biologist.
Yes, as Bo said, there are two trails out. The Right Fork trail could be very hard to find. I have been a couple hundred yards below the Left Fork Trail exit, and the social trails just peter out, and it is tight, unpleasant brush. It would not be fun.
Tom
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04-12-2011, 08:25 AM #8
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04-12-2011, 09:44 AM #9
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04-12-2011, 01:21 PM #10
Thanks
Thank you, all, for the very interesting and helpful info. At the end of the June heat day, I will probably just head straight for the ice cooler after the lava cliff ascent. Danka.
Only Dead Fish Go With The Flow
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