Government Shutdown

[IntrepidXJ]

Let me start out by saying: I hate making reservations in Canyonlands.....which is why I haven't been to the Maze yet (or the White Rim for that matter). Last year I finally decided I wanted to go to the Maze and actually made reservations, took the time off from work and planned the trip ahead of time...which starts on Saturday.

The Govt better get the budget figured out by Friday!

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Randy,

In the unfortunate event that federal employees are furloughed, the
national park system, including Canyonlands National Park, will be closed.
We wanted to provide advance notice that you may not be able to begin your
backcountry trip due to this closure. If this closure prevents you from
using your current reservation, we will be glad to try and rebook your
reservation for a future date.

If you decide to cancel your reservation and you paid by credit card we
will refund your reservation fee back to your credit card.

If you paid by means other than credit card we will refund your reservation
fee once we are provided guidance on how to process these payments.

Canyonlands National Park Reservation Office
435-259-4351 M-F 8am-12:30pm MST
(fax) 435-259-4285
canyres@nps.gov

[ibenick]

If they close up and go home then I guess they won't know if you went anyway....

[Udink]

If they close up and go home then I guess they won't know if you went anyway....

I was thinking the same thing...

[Scott Card]

If they close up and go home then I guess they won't know if you went anyway....

I too was thinking the same thing. I would begin the day with a poached egg. Have yourself a "theme" day.

[IntrepidXJ]

Whether it's true or just something they are saying to discourage people from going anyway.....they told me the rangers will be sweeping the campgrounds and making sure people pack up and go....

I inquired about picking up my permit on Friday since you can pick it up a day early....this is what I was told

[trackrunner]

If they close up and go home then I guess they won't know if you went anyway....

Whether it's true or just something they are saying to discourage people from going anyway.....they told me the rangers will be sweeping the campgrounds and making sure people pack up and go....

but they are not checking you have a permit

go in early and hide in the backcountry the limited critical employees that are allowed to work would be more focused on keeping people form entering the park and clearing out the campgrounds then finding someone hours in and deep in the backcountry. my bet is there would not be many backcountry rangers on patrol. take the chance. if they found you deep in the backcountry on saturday the worst they could do to you is inform you of the shutdown and that you would have to drive out, a scenic drive it would be.

[SportSawyer]

... the worst they could do to you is inform you of the shutdown and that you would have to drive out, a scenic drive it would be.

Right. Ever heard of the "Sedona 5" with respect to the shutdown during Clinton's presidency?

http://www.mountainbikeheaven.com/archives/bagfame.html

[trackrunner]

Right. Ever heard of the "Sedona 5" with respect to the shutdown during Clinton's presidency?

http://www.mountainbikeheaven.com/archives/bagfame.html

some big differneces here. they were mt. biking on a closed trail to mt. biking & had illegal substances.

IntrepidXJ is doing a legal activity. he would be entering the park when the park is legally open. if there is a shutdown then at the law enforcement meeting about the shutdown they would bring up the fact that someone may have to inform him he has to leave now the park is closed because of the shutdown.

but if he illegally entered the park next Thursday during the shutdown he might not be told or escorted out of the park under his own power so nicely.

but I agree there is a wide range of reactions that could be encountered: a nice fyi the park is closed to shutdown . . . to something a little less than the 5 poachers experienced.

also IntrepidXJ leave the medical marijuana at home for this trip.

[blueeyes]

Have yourself a theme day and get a refund!

[asdf]

wtf... is that for real? National Park furlough?
Does this mean I will be getting some of my taxes back?

[Sombeech]

Does this mean I will be getting some of my taxes back?

Not with obama in office

[asdf]

Not with obama in office

That's exactly what makes you part of the problem.
If McCain was in office do you really think we would be any better off?

[ibenick]

This could be bad... Apparently at the beginning of the session the republicans made this new 72 hour rule that means the government will have to shut down at least for the weekend. It requires 72 hours once a bill is finalized for it to be reviewed before it can be passed into law. The article quoted a republican aide who felt it was likely they wouldn't back down on that rule even if they reach a deal on Friday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_845694.html

[Don]

This could be bad... Apparently at the beginning of the session the republicans made this new 72 hour rule that means the government will have to shut down at least for the weekend. It requires 72 hours once a bill is finalized for it to be reviewed before it can be passed into law. The article quoted a republican aide who felt it was likely they wouldn't back down on that rule even if they reach a deal on Friday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_845694.html

That only applies if they agree on a budget. It they come up with another continuing resolution the 72 hour rule doesn't apply.

I'll tell you what's funny about this. A whole LOT of federal employees spent a whole lot of time this week in meetings and planning for the possibility of a shut down instead of doing their jobs.

It's really annoying that we let the wingnuts speak for us. The majority of Americans are nearer the middle; democrats who own guns or republicans who are for equal rights or democrats for more fiscal responsibility or republicans for wilderness protection. But we allow the extreme voices among us to represent us and then wonder why they are unable to compromise.

If they don't pull their heads out and I end up on furlough Monday you can bet your ass I'll be spending my time off making some angry phone calls and sending some angry emails.

[moab mark]

That only applies if they agree on a budget. It they come up with another continuing resolution the 72 hour rule doesn't apply.

I'll tell you what's funny about this. A whole LOT of federal employees spent a whole lot of time this week in meetings and planning for the possibility of a shut down instead of doing their jobs.

It's really annoying that we let the wingnuts speak for us. The majority of Americans are nearer the middle; democrats who own guns or republicans who are for equal rights or democrats for more fiscal responsibility or republicans for wilderness protection. But we allow the extreme voices among us to represent us and then wonder why they are unable to compromise.

If they don't pull their heads out and I end up on furlough Monday you can bet your ass I'll be spending my time off making some angry phone calls and sending some angry emails.

Well put Don

[homerj]

Well put Don

Agree!

[IntrepidXJ]

I was just speaking to a ranger at the Colorado National Monument who is a friend of a friend......she says Law Enforcement will be patrolling the parks, as it is considered necessary personnel....their job is to keep the park closed.

[Sombeech]

Yeah I'm part of the problem

[JP]

Oh how we forget the Dems purposely didn't come up with a budget when they had...the majority, the time and when they were supposed to. Gee, wonder why they left it for after the onslaught they saw coming. We'll see if Obama's plan backfires

[keithd]

If we shut down, I plan to spend my time hiking!