Of rope silos and rope management...

[rsmiller]

So how many people use rope silos?

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Thinking about getting one

[Pelon1]

They are the only way to go, makes rope management a breeze. Thats all I have ever done. Toms are the best also. They have some flotation, stiff neck and hold alot of rope.

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[hank moon]

[QUOTE=rsmiller;420635]So how many people use rope silos?

[FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Thinking about getting one

[mtthwlw]

I've go one of Tom's Imlay Silos too. I love how much less time it takes to go after a drop-- less than half the time required for coiling. I just have one problem with it: how to attach it to my pack for the long hikes between raps. Perhaps I'm just using it wrong, but slinging it over my shoulder for a long time cuts into me and it doesn't sit on my pack very well. (I have a very small pack-- not an Imlay pack) I'd like to see one with smallish pack straps instead of the webbing that they have. Maybe I could learn to use mine better.

How do you all pack yours around over your packs? Pictures would be nice.

[ratagonia]

I've go one of Tom's Imlay Silos too. I love how much less time it takes to go after a drop-- less than half the time required for coiling. I just have one problem with it: how to attach it to my pack for the long hikes between raps. Perhaps I'm just using it wrong, but slinging it over my shoulder for a long time cuts into me and it doesn't sit on my pack very well. (I have a very small pack-- not an Imlay pack) I'd like to see one with smallish pack straps instead of the webbing that they have. Maybe I could learn to use mine better.

How do you all pack yours around over your packs? Pictures would be nice.

Matthew, Matthew, Matthew. You need to come down and take a class, I can see. The first thing you would learn is ...

Hand the rope off to one of your minions and say "here, carry this"...

Unless, of course, you are the youngest and strongest in your group, in which case you need a bigger pack.

Truthfully, no they don't carry all that well between drops. We usually give em to some young buck to carry, or hand them back and forth, tossing them past downclimbs. If you put them in a pack, they disappear from visibility.

Also helps to have a healthy remuda of ropes. While the one for the one or two long raps might be in someone's pack, the shorter 'working rope' is in a Bagarino and is easier to carry in the hand.

Tom

[Cirrus2000]

Also helps to have a healthy remuda of ropes.

Ya learned me a new word, Tom!

Remuda is a herd of horses from which ranch hands select their mounts. The word is of Spanish-American derivation, for "change of horses".

Oh, and yeah - I've got a Bagarino, a medium Silo, and a Bagette. A selection of bags in which to keep my remuda of ropes.

[jman]

just a quick derail, speaking of ropes

Emperor Tomulous,
Do you know the rope weights for a 200ft 8.3mm, a 200ft 9mm, and 300ft 9mm?

[ratagonia]

just a quick derail, speaking of ropes

Emperor Tomulous,
Do you know the rope weights for a 200ft 8.3mm, a 200ft 9mm, and 300ft 9mm?

The rope comparison chart is here: http://imlaycanyongear.com/ropes2.php

Enjoy.

Tomulus Maximus

[ratagonia]

Ya learned me a new word, Tom!



Oh, and yeah - I've got a Bagarino, a medium Silo, and a Bagette. A selection of bags in which to keep my remuda of ropes.

The credit goes to Louis Lamour!

T

[jman]

The rope comparison chart is here: http://imlaycanyongear.com/ropes2.php

Enjoy.

Tomulus Maximus

hehe nice! Didn't know that existed on your site. Thanks.

[rsmiller]

Thanks for the comments.... I think I'll give one a try...

[rsmiller]

Which size do people find the most useful... it seems the bagarino would be most useful....

When carrying a longer rope that you'll only use a couple of times, why even have a rope silo? Why not just stash it in your partners pack and then retrieve for the few times it will be used?

[moab mark]

Did you click on the link about 4 posts up? It shows which bag for which rope. Silo's rule I personally own 7 of them. Buy one and try it and then you'll have one for every rope.

[moab mark]

Which size do people find the most useful... it seems the bagarino would be most useful....

When carrying a longer rope that you'll only use a couple of times, why even have a rope silo? Why not just stash it in your partners pack and then retrieve for the few times it will be used?

If this long rope is in a silo you can use it all day long because you only have to use the amount you need. My buddy just went thru Behuniun recently and the guy he went with brought 2 300' ropes coiled. It was all the guy had. My buddy wanted to commit suicide by the end of the day from coiling all that rope all day long. I can't fathom rappeling a 70' drop with a coiled 300' rope.

[Bubbles]

After I drowned a standard rope bag in one canyon and had another bag float a mile downstream in a C canyon, I started using the silo. Never looked back. Definitely worth it.

[ratagonia]

If this long rope is in a silo you can use it all day long because you only have to use the amount you need. My buddy just went thru Behuniun recently and the guy he went with brought 2 300' ropes coiled. It was all the guy had. My buddy wanted to commit suicide by the end of the day from coiling all that rope all day long. I can't fathom rappeling a 70' drop with a coiled 300' rope.

I do not have any Small Silos at Canyoneering USA, but Bo might have one or two at the Desert Rat, and I know Zion Adventure Company has a few they could sell you.

Tom

[ratagonia]

I do not have any Small Silos at Canyoneering USA, but Bo might have one or two at the Desert Rat, and I know Zion Adventure Company has a few they could sell you.

Tom

Rope Bag
I think there is an error on the web site this bag is listed at $154

http://canyoneeringusa.com/shop/prod...cat=255&page=1

The text on that items says I am out of them until April - but people still order them. So sometimes when I am out of stuff, I put a ridiculous price on em, which discourages people from ordering them.

Tom

[moab mark]

The text on that items says I am out of them until April - but people still order them. So sometimes when I am out of stuff, I put a ridiculous price on em, which discourages people from ordering them.

Tom

Trying to run off prospective customers?Wouldn't back ordering be a better idea?

[p40whk]

Perhaps I'm just using it wrong, but slinging it over my shoulder for a long time cuts into me and it doesn't sit on my pack very well. (I have a very small pack-- not an Imlay pack) I'd like to see one with smallish pack straps instead of the webbing that they have.

I'll have to agree with this. Although I've only used the bag a few times (I have the small silo), I found it difficult to attach to my pack and it wouldn't fit inside. When in the canyon, it's no big deal because it's out most of the time but trying to figure out a way to secure it for the long approach will take some thought without having a few more sewn in clip loops (which would make this bag perfect in my mind).

[moab mark]

I took several of the larger silo's years ago and had a guy in Ogden sew back pack straps on them. I'll look for a picture. Use them alot in North Wash type canyons. Put the rope in the bottom, gear on top. Put on gear when you get to first drop and use silo as intended. But with the standard silos you either carry in your hand try to sling it over your shoulder or stick it in your pack. When going small distances between drops we biner them to the hand strap on the top of an Imlay Pack, the Silo just hangs on the side.