Arches NP Climbing and Canyoneering Management Plan

[backofbeyond]

It was nice to sit down with some of the folks involved in this plan and discuss what is really going on. The A.C.A./S.U.U. Conference turned out to be a great venue to get dialog going between canyoneers and land managers.

[Iceaxe]

Any word on what the park decided?

I spoke with Arches rangers in June and nothing has been decided as of yet..... and I was told it might be as long as two years before we see anything...

Lots of information gathering going on... I've noticed rangers making more contact with canyoneers at trailheads. The contact is friendly and not adversarial like in Zion.

IMHO... The best thing canyoneers can do right now is be well behaved and fly below the radar...

[ratagonia]

It was nice to sit down with some of the folks involved in this plan and discuss what is really going on. The A.C.A./S.U.U. Conference turned out to be a great venue to get dialog going between canyoneers and land managers.

Cool. Would you like to post some notes from the meeting?

Tom

[moab mark]

It was nice to sit down with some of the folks involved in this plan and discuss what is really going on. The A.C.A./S.U.U. Conference turned out to be a great venue to get dialog going between canyoneers and land managers.

As Tom asked, "what is really going on"

[ratagonia]

It was nice to sit down with some of the folks involved in this plan and discuss what is really going on. The A.C.A./S.U.U. Conference turned out to be a great venue to get dialog going between canyoneers and land managers.

Anyone?

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Bueller?

[Branin]

Anyone?

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Bueller?

Talked a lot about bolting vs natural anchors. They have some concerns with both, and sought feedback from the folks there on it. As well as sharing with us some concerns about both. All the standard ones both ways, as well as some I hadn't heard before, like that it is supposed to be illegal to disturb the earth in Wilderness areas (with a capital W), which would make sandtraps a no go. Currently bolting is prohibited there, but that is due to lack of a plan, not the plan. The guy from arches also regularly wondered why anyone canyoneers there, because according to him the canyons on this side of the state are way better. For more information, contact Nathan Plants at nathan_plants@nps.gov He was one of the two arches folks there, and the only one I have contact info for. (and the SAR coordinator for that park group, fascinating to talk with)