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02-09-2010, 04:25 PM #1
Subway Question
15 or so years ago as a Boy Scout I hiked the Subway. I would like to hike it again this year. I don't recall needing any climbing gear. It seems from the descriptions I have read here that a rope may be necessary? I recall a couple of short down climbs but nothing that required a rope(normal route, not the early entry to Russel Gulch). Am I remembering this hike incorrectly?
I have no aversion to taking a rope as a safety measure.
thanks.
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02-09-2010 04:25 PM # ADS
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02-09-2010, 04:37 PM #2
The Subway REQUIRES a 60' rope for the final obstacle if doing it from the top down....
It's very possible you did it without a rope in the past.... Some years you will find old logs and stuff folks have carried up from the bottom to climb up the final obstacle and Keyhole Falls. I've also seen the pool at the base of the final obstacle be deep enough that it is jumpable, it was filled in with sand on my last trip through... I've also seen some idiots slide/jump the obstacles, broken legs/ankles are the biggest reason for SAR in the Subway..... the only dependable/safe method is to carry a rope.
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02-09-2010, 04:41 PM #3
Re: Subway Question
Originally Posted by jtrack79
Yeah yeah I'm a safety nazi, no doubt. I've done the keyhole falls jump, catch and drop twice, without a rope, and sprained my ankle, twice. The landing is bad, round boulders hidden in knee-deep whitewater. No more for me, thanks. The first boulder obstacle CAN be downclimbed. Only two or three people a year (out of 1200) break their ankle there each year. Good odds, unless it is your ankle.
Tom
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02-09-2010, 06:10 PM #4
Thanks for the feedback. I will take a rope. My guess is this would be primarily for use as a hand line and a harness wouldn't be necessary?
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02-09-2010, 06:37 PM #5
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I always want a rope!!!! :)
And don't even tall me no silver back....
That depends. Tom and Shane would probably handline the whole thing. On that last obstacle, when its wet and slippery... I like a harness.
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02-09-2010, 06:45 PM #6Originally Posted by jtrack79
Tom
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02-09-2010, 07:52 PM #7
Got it. thanks.
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02-09-2010, 08:14 PM #8Originally Posted by jtrack79
Tom
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