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12-02-2009, 07:00 PM #1
Whats wrong with the the rigging?
Its dead week here at Weber. Nothing to do but study, thus the door room anchor set up.
So whats wrong?
I have seen a friend rig this way in practice.
Shown is direction of pull.
better off outdoors
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12-02-2009 07:00 PM # ADS
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12-02-2009, 07:20 PM #2
Looks like you have a Munter hitch on your biner block, rather than a clove hitch - a little trick that Randi uses from time to time to speed up passage through the canyons.... ha!
or???
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12-02-2009, 07:43 PM #3Originally Posted by ratagonia
Yeah, top photo looks like a munter. Bottom just looks like a wrap of sorts.
Tying into a single door and handle isn't really redundant. Be best if you backed it up to the towel rack in the bathroom...
-Brian in SLC
(who keeps cord in the living room to rig with...)
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12-02-2009, 07:51 PM #4Originally Posted by ratagonia
But, ya know - I would keep an eye on EVERY biner block, and make sure that if any adjustments are done between folks rapelling, that the knot is dressed correctly, because it CAN fail with a slight barely perceptable shift of the cordage, Moses.If the shoe fits ~ pretend it doesn
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12-02-2009, 07:53 PM #5Originally Posted by Brian in SLCIf the shoe fits ~ pretend it doesn
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12-02-2009, 07:56 PM #6Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
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12-02-2009, 08:56 PM #7Originally Posted by Randi
Now its a "teachable moment" or some such, and, a source of Tom's wicked sense of humor.
Oh, wicked wicked Tom.
I'd a been pretty bummed at the time. To say the least.
Coulda woulda shoulda...
Cheers!
-Brian in SLC
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12-02-2009, 11:10 PM #8Originally Posted by ratagoniabetter off outdoors
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12-02-2009, 11:11 PM #9Originally Posted by Brian in SLCbetter off outdoors
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12-03-2009, 07:10 AM #10
Technically--your anchor is fine, door knob's,webbing,rapide.
It is your rigging that is flawed.(munter on biner)
The anchor end's at your rapide, anything done with the rope, attaching to this rapide, is rigging.
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12-03-2009, 07:36 AM #11Originally Posted by oldno7better off outdoors
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12-03-2009, 08:32 AM #12Originally Posted by oldno7
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12-03-2009, 10:18 AM #13
No one has commented on the un-locked biner, that brings me to a question:
What is the consensus as far as locking the biner during a biner block? I've always locked itbetter off outdoors
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12-03-2009, 10:57 AM #14Originally Posted by cookiecutter
ALWAYS lock. Even large biners if left unlocked could work themselves through the rapide.
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12-03-2009, 11:27 AM #15
Dang, I never thought of taking pictures of the home made anchors. I should have photographed my rigging I did to hang my christmas lights. Here is the description. I lassoed my daughters bed and pulled the rope out her window for one side of the pitch of the roof. I then took the rope up and over the pitch and then and I slung my old riding lawn mower for the other side of the pitch of the roof. So I had one line from my daughters window up and over the peak, down the other side to my lawn mower. Both were at an angle so I couldn't fall off the front of the roof either. The real purpose for the rope was to prevent me sliding and screaming as I went only to break my legs. I think next year I will place a couple of bolts up at the peak. I thought maybe the satelite dish may do but those screws are short and it is already wiggly. Give me bolts! These natural anchors are ruining my peak shingles!
Life is Good
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12-03-2009, 11:34 AM #16Originally Posted by Scott Card
So... I was just thinking if your daughter brought her boyfriend over while you were tied into her bed.... it could get ugly fast....
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12-03-2009, 11:50 AM #17Originally Posted by Iceaxe
No, I don't think that would ever happen with my daughter. Jeez, boys have to go through a background check, credit check, fill out a form about their families' mental history and finally be cross examined by me before they can date my daughters. I wonder if there is a boy out there man enough to date my daughters.
BTW, you don't have sons do you? If so, don't even think about it. But I digress... what was this thread about anyway???Life is Good
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12-04-2009, 02:35 PM #18Originally Posted by oldno7
Tom
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12-04-2009, 02:58 PM #19
Rigging denotes your rope work of choice, ie.
double strand
single strand
biner block
munter mule
etc. etc
I can't qoute you anywhere that this is a fact, but I'm certain you can't do likewise. For clarities sake, my interpretation is the best.
When I teach technical courses we spend a day on anchor "building", then move on to "rigging".
I would say that when you pull down your anchoring system with you, be it potshot's, retrievable webbing,macrame, etc. it becomes very intertwined. But for general everyday trade canyon's it seem's prudent to make a clear distinction.
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12-04-2009, 03:02 PM #20Originally Posted by oldno7
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