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Thread: Chrome OS
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11-24-2009, 06:35 AM #41Originally Posted by Deeps
Originally Posted by Summit
comparable? yes
The cheepest 15" macbook pro I could find was 1700 dollars.
Here is a link to the 67 laptops on newegg in the 750-1000 range
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20-%20%241000
Here is a link to the 99 laptops on tigerdirect in the 750-1000 range
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...l=Price;Price7
and.. 30 more at costco.
http://www.costco.com/Common/Category.aspx?whse=BC&Ne=5000000&eCat=BC|84|56670& N=4017745+5000107&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1 ||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&topnav=
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11-24-2009 06:35 AM # ADS
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11-24-2009, 06:52 AM #42
I'm really diggin' those little mini notebooks. About 6 months ago they were around $200, but for some reason, they crept up to $300. hmmmmm.......
One of the Techs I work with has one and he loves it. You can just plug in an SD card and use that for more RAM as well. It's not going to do the heavy processing jobs for you, but they're a great mobile laptop.
Sometimes you have to wonder if these big laptops were meant to be mobile, they're 2 feet wide and they're packed in transit like the most fragile precious gem. One pair of sunglasses packed wrong in the suitcase, and your monitor is cracked.
These little web books or whatever they're called are super easy to take around.
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11-24-2009, 07:43 AM #43Originally Posted by Summit
comparable? yes
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That's not a comparison.
You're missing a lot of info, and the specs that line up are up and down. You can upgrade the Apple HD to 500 GB for $150 BTO.
What's the screen resolution? What screen technology are they employing? What's the graphics card on the Win7? Backlit keyboard? Battery life? Weight? The processor is running at different speeds, is it the same processor (Core2 Duo on the Mac)? Built in i-sight camera and microphone? How do the speakers compare? Do you get a free printer with the PC? You do with the Mac.
I'm not even going to get into design features like the mag-safe adaptor that's saved my power connection more than once. Apple doesn't design their computers just for aesthetics.
I clicked on your newegg link. The prices are more in the $850 - $1000 range
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11-24-2009, 09:23 AM #44Originally Posted by Deeps
But I really don't have the time or desire to hash out the specifics.
So.. you adding a 500gb hard drive. So with we are up to $1900.
POS graphics card - I am not interested in running games (nor or you cause you running a mac), processing photos, or anything graphically intensive programs. I have three desktops that can do these things.
Back lit keyboard - I am sure I can find a laptop with a back lit keyboard for under $1900. I also just ordered 3 small flash lights off steep and cheap for 3.99 each and they have a little clip that will connect to a hat or head band. I could order over 300 of them for the price difference.
Slightly shorter battery life - dunno, I learned not to trust any manufactures specifications for battery life a long time ago.
2lbs of extra weight - On most every hike I do I carry 4-6 beers in my pack along with an SLR, extra lens, and a full size tripod. At 6'2" 245lb packing around any extra weight I can is only going to do me some good.
Web cam - I could careless but my peeps on myspace would be missing out.
Printer - Something I learned about printers a long time ago was that free = piece of shit.
None of those things are worth an extra $1300 but that's just me. I am in the market for a laptop and would not mind owning macbook but I think I would rather save some cash and put it towards a new camera body.
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11-24-2009, 10:13 AM #45Originally Posted by Summit
You're getting a 20% faster frontside bus, a third more L2 cache, and RAM running at almost twice the speed. Those numbers effect performance alone, but the user experience as well.
Drop to a 13" MacBook and still have better native resolution than most of the newegg 15" PC laptop's, same resolution, smaller package. You would only be spending an extra $100-$200 over newegg listings... And still getting the same bus, cache and RAM speed advantages in the Pro above. If you're just looking for something to surf the net on, buy one of the mini's Justin was talking about.
The backlit keyboard may seem like a luxury to you, but I would feel self conscious using a $3.99 clip-on headlamp while giving a presentation in a dark conference room or trying to work during a flight. I'll pay a little extra for 7 hours of battery life compared to 4 on the PC's. The Epson inkjet rebate printer I got three years ago still works beautifully, as does the Samsung color laser I got two years ago. Though admittedly, I paid $100 for the Samsung since it was a $200 printer.
You're also getting a laptop that is made of glass and aluminum that can be recycled. MacBook Pro's use displays and components that are mercury-free, arsenic-free, BFR-free and PVC-free. That may seem to be an intangible, but I appreciate their effort and it's worth noting. What eco-advantage does the Acer offer? CineCrystal
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11-24-2009, 10:17 AM #46
20% faster for a 200% the price
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11-24-2009, 10:19 AM #47Originally Posted by Summit
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11-24-2009, 10:48 AM #48Originally Posted by Deeps
oh -I missed the ram upgrade....# 8GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB [Add $600.00]
what a steal!
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11-24-2009, 11:38 AM #49Originally Posted by Summit
8GB DDR3 RAM is about $200 on www.crucial.com
I'm still not too familiar with using SD cards for speed boosts, but I would try that first before buying $200 - $600 in more RAM.
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11-24-2009, 11:55 AM #50Originally Posted by Sombeech
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11-24-2009, 12:06 PM #51Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
Sometimes adding only 512mb of your 4 gig flash memory device will give you better performance than adding all 4 gigs and other times adding the full memory device is faster. It depends on the card and your setup. Sometimes it makes it slower over all. But in general it is a pretty slick technology and it works pretty well. I used for a long time on a work computer and was disappointed at first but once I got it figured out, it worked really well.
The two main things are that you first make sure you get a card which is "Ready Boost" capable (it will most likely be advertised as such) and second make sure you leave the card in your laptop permanently (otherwise your processor will go to look for memory where it is used to storing it and it won't be there slowing it down and un-training your processor on where to find it)"My heart shall cry out for Moab..." Isaiah 15:5
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11-24-2009, 01:24 PM #52
hmmm... so add a permanent 8GB SD card in there for what, about 40 bucks?
But I guess stuff will get kinda messy when you take it out to read your camera's card temporarily?
I wonder if it would be better to keep a permanent USB port occupied with a ready boost thumb drive.
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11-24-2009, 02:17 PM #53Originally Posted by Sombeech
Originally Posted by Sombeech"My heart shall cry out for Moab..." Isaiah 15:5
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11-24-2009, 03:35 PM #54Originally Posted by DiscGo
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11-24-2009, 03:48 PM #55
It looks like I may be wrong about Chrome OS. I look forward to trying it.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/24/c...et-used-to-th/"My heart shall cry out for Moab..." Isaiah 15:5
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11-24-2009, 04:10 PM #56
So how much does Chrome OS cost, I haven't seen the price yet. I'm actually surprised that it would cost money, coming from Google.
One note to the guy shooting the video....
TRIPOD
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11-24-2009, 04:46 PM #57
I'm downloading Chrome OS right now, and I'm going to test it on Friday. That should help make up my mind.
"My heart shall cry out for Moab..." Isaiah 15:5
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11-24-2009, 07:23 PM #58Originally Posted by Sombeech
PS, remember not to use your "broad strokes" statements like "doesn't crash" or "viruses" because it's false.
on another topic, seems like the multiple operating systems is right in line with the free market, which many feel is generally a good thing? clearly a company has a bigger task to write software for multiple operating systems, clearly there are compatibility issues, but surely we don't want a single party operating system providing for all, do we? i would think that would stunt innovation, diversity, and all those good things. clearly there are caveats here ... intercommunication should be important.
i can see that some people favor one operating system based on its seemingly unlimited options. i can see some people favoring an operating system based on their experience with it, i can imagine that there are a whole lot of reasons an individual chooses which operating system they use that are well beyond my understanding. everyone has their own particular reasons why they use what they use. i think that's the reality.
I'm monitoring over 300 computers in my building right now, 2 of them had a virus this year. ...that's >1%
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11-24-2009, 09:48 PM #59Originally Posted by Sombeech
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11-24-2009, 10:20 PM #60Originally Posted by theking648
http://gdgt.com/google/chrome-os/"My heart shall cry out for Moab..." Isaiah 15:5
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