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Thread: Zion Backcountry Oversize Permit
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09-02-2009, 10:14 AM #1
Zion Backcountry Oversize Permit
Since I'm pretending to be a lawyer on the interwebs today...... I'll bet anyone wanting to challenge a Zion ticket for exceeding the "maximum group of 12" could beat it.... I know the local scout group in my hood got nailed $50 for breaking this rule. They had two Subway permits but were over the the 12 limit. The scout leader just paid the ticket and referred to it as a $50 "Oversize Permit".
That rule is poorly written since we all belong to the same affiliation.... the human race... but we could narrow it down much further if we wanted.... Everyone who is a scout (even if from different geographical areas). Everyone who reads Bogley, Technically everyone who visits Zion and pays a park entrance fee is affiliated.
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09-02-2009 10:14 AM # ADS
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09-02-2009, 11:48 AM #2
On a slightly different twist. Can you get a permit for Pine Creek and go 3 times in one day with 4 guys?
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09-02-2009, 01:01 PM #3
I posted too much last year (?) about being from Mapleton. Apparently someone back then thought that since there were three permits drawn from Mapleton, Utah, for the same canyon we were all affiliated. The ranger got an ear full from me and I received no ticket. I happened to know all three groups and proudy I got all three interested in canyoneering. However, we not "affiliated" since we were three different groups staying in three different places being funded three different ways. Thanks Ice, you went and did it. You brought up the permit system and one part of it that drives me nuts. I am now annoyed, yet again, at the permit system.....
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09-02-2009, 01:02 PM #4Originally Posted by moab mark
I also did it with my kids in Keyhole when they were small. I would take them through one at a time, I'd only get a permit for 2.
I like to think of that as a grey area.... I'm guessing its not legal if you asked.... but its easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.
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09-02-2009, 01:10 PM #5Originally Posted by moab mark
This makes me wonder, if I back track in a canyon to see something or to swim a pool again, I have effectively traveled three times through that section (going down, back up and then back down again). Can we not take a step backwards? Folks, I tell you, this system is just about that nuts.Life is Good
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09-02-2009, 01:12 PM #6Originally Posted by Scott Card
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