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    Sex In Wyoming

    Here's a little story highlighting your tax dollars at work here in Wyoming.

    My wife has a friend who has a daughter who is a senior in the local high school here in Green River. We'll call her daughter "Stacy." Stacy is attending a healthy lifestyles course as an elective to finish out her senior year. The final semester the teacher gives the students the opportunity to choose what they want to study. So, of course they choose......SEX.

    Stacy comes home reporting that her teacher is showing videos of CAT scanned images of married couples having sex to demonstrate what happens during an orgasm. The married couples also discussed how they indulge in pornography to enhance their sexual experience. They are also discussing what a "G-spot" is, and how to stimulate it. Then the teacher had the students bring into the class pop music that contained lyrics that alluded to sexual intercourse. Everyone took turns listening to each others songs during classtime. Stacy expressed that she felt "dirty" after each class, and was being ridiculed by the rest of the class because she was too much of a "prude."

    Of course Stacy's mother is upset. She goes to the principal, but is brushed off.

    [opinion on] Now I don't have a problem with teachers in public schools teaching about sex as long as the curriculum is objective and academic. Teaching about STDs, contraception, and tolerance towards others with differing sexual orientations is all good by me. But showing videos of orgasms, teaching how to sexually stimulate a woman, glorifying pornography, and playing music containing explicit lyrics as a part of the curriculum is inappropriate and just plain ridiculous. All of that stuff kids do in their spare time when their parents are away on vacation -- it shouldn't be pushed through our public school system under the label of "education." [opinion off]

    So what do you think? Am I way off base? What do you think is the best course of action here?
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    I think you have just explained what many fear about sex education in school instead of the home. Instead of being taught the science behind it and the responsibilities and consequences and use of protection it turns into an orgy planning meeting :)


    (I am so immature. I started giggling as soon as I had typed that last sentence) But seriously that is inappropriate.

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    People from Wyoming should stop having sex.

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    Thats pretty wild. I agree with your opinion on it. Sure gives Sex Ed a bad name but also school in general. They are getting pretty far away from what most people want their kids to be taught. Makes you wonder what else gets taught.

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    Not only that rockgremlin, but in Green River, in 7th GRADE mind you, the school health program is teaching the kids how to put on a condom...to do reports on STD's...the list goes on. You as a parent can demand that the school put your student in a separate curriculum and they have to do it, otherwise you CHILD will be taught things you may deem inappropriate at that age...or you will be teaching your child about sex at an earlier age

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    They're going to learn about it one way or another. Parents better step up to the plate and prepare their kids. I have a problem with schools stepping away from traditional learning and venturing into areas that become conflicts with morals, politics, etc.
    If they pick a course that the curriculum is spelled out, students and parents alike shouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP
    I have a problem with schools stepping away from traditional learning and venturing into areas that become conflicts with morals, politics, etc. If they pick a course that the curriculum is spelled out, students and parents alike shouldn't be surprised.
    Agreed. Teach them the fundamentals and what is considered appropriate.

    Since when is it important for high school seniors to know how to stimulate the G spot? It's like sex ed. ala Carrie Bradshaw (played by Sarah Jessica Parker in Sex in the City for those whose heads that joke flew over).
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin
    Since when is it important for high school seniors to know how to stimulate the G spot?
    Nothing like being well-informed

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    Wow! Wyoming, the state with drive up liquor and maybe drive up porn too. Not surprised. Do they have private schools?


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    The subject of this thread is very misleading and I am dissapointed Certainly not what I was expecting. Hey, what ever happened to that idea of a Bogley dating section?
    "Always look at the bright side of life"

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    Quote Originally Posted by KapitanSparrow
    The subject of this thread is very misleading and I am dissapointed Certainly not what I was expecting.
    What were you expecting.....Brokeback Mountain?
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin
    Quote Originally Posted by KapitanSparrow
    The subject of this thread is very misleading and I am disappointed Certainly not what I was expecting.
    What were you expecting.....Brokeback Mountain?

    Nah, probably the same thing that first came to my mind.

    Sex in Wyoming means happy sheep.


    Kind of ironic that we have had two post about Utah being #1 in porn consumption and now this about sex ed. If we weren't so darned uptight about sex it wouldn't be that big of a deal. When you make sex out to be this big taboo thing all it does is spark the imagination and curiosity.

    Porn and teen pregnancy a little high around these parts it seems.

    Most parents don't talk to their kids about sex. At all.

    I would think that most ladies would be happy to have the men folk knowing how to find and work the G spot. I mean, the guys are going to enjoy themselves pretty much guaranteed. What's wrong with knowing not only knowing how to do it but how to do it right and add even more enjoyment? Ahhh, that's probably it. We don't wan't the kiddies to know just how enjoyable it is.

    Sure would have saved me a couple of years and a few "hey whats this do's?". People are so uptight about it all that even when you're with someone they may be to embarrassed to say...

    no, no...you're not even close. It's over here and you do it like this.

    Man how many times have we all heard that?

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    I don't care about sex right now - the new Empire: Total War game just came out!
    "Always look at the bright side of life"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Child
    What's wrong with knowing not only knowing how to do it but how to do it right and add even more enjoyment? Ahhh, that's probably it. We don't wan't the kiddies to know just how enjoyable it is.
    I don't have a problem with that at all. Just don't do it in our publicly funded school system. If you wanna enroll your kids in a pornography and smutfest class in a private school -- by all means knock yourself out. Good for you and your sexually active kiddies.


    You have to admit that Stacy probably didn't expect much less want to see orgasms and talk about G spots when she enrolled in a healthy lifestyles class in her high school.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    I think we send our children out into the dating world extremely uninformed when it comes to sex..... they should know about STD's, they should know how to put a condom on.... they should know what an orgasm is....

    As for learning through music maybe it's not the best way.... but I can't think of a better way to attack the subject. The kids already listen to the music and if the leacture is to clinical the kids just tune it out.

    And I can only hope my kids feel a little "uncomfortable" when they learn about sex.... otherwise they are being told a little too late.... I'd rather my daughters feel a little discomfort in the class room then come home knocked-up....

    And on a side note, which I'm sure doesn't apply to any of the men on Bogley ....most men could use a good class in satisfying a woman. I know I sure could have at one time in my life.... I learned like this.... I think I was about 24 at the time....

    Cougar: What are you doing?
    Ice: Satisfying you!
    Cougar: Oh.... so you know where my G-spot is?
    Ice: Sure do.
    Cougar: Well it's about 2" from where you think it is.....



    So.... if they let you opt out of having your kids in the class what's your bitch? I'd prefer my kids no too much then too little...


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    I learned how to put a condom on in 7th grade. No biggie, most of the kids in the class knew how already. STD's, condoms, etc. I think need to be talked about around 6th grade. Junior high was the most filthy mouthed, perverted time of my life. Walking the Junior High halls was like being in a R to X rated movie on most days. Kids know those things at that age. I think parents should use the sex ed class at school to start discussions and give a serious talk to their kids around 6th grade. Learning about the period should be enough to keep young boys away from the girls for a while.

    I think learning the ins and outs should be on the parents. Gspot, that may be a little far for me if this is a mixed class. Although that would have helped me out in high school.
    I am a fairly open minded parent so I would say this sounds ok if my daughter was in the class for the most part. The pornography thing takes it too far for me. I draw the line at promoting porn in school classes. I have never seen it do any good in someone's life, actually the exact opposite.

    Good for Stacy for sticking up for what she thought was wrong. Mabey she should talk with the teacher and ask if she can be excused from class when things come up that she doesn't want to hear.

    The music thing just sounds like a waste of time. I think the teacher was just trying to get a bigger music selection for his "nasty time" mix tape.
    The man thong is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxx
    The music thing just sounds like a waste of time. I think the teacher was just trying to get a bigger music selection for his "nasty time" mix tape.




    Great points guys. To me it sounds like the teacher is letting the students control the content being presented instead of vice versa -- which is never a good idea.

    I am colossally disappointed at the banner ads for this thread. All this talk about sex, and the only banner ad I get is for the University of Phoenix.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin
    Quote Originally Posted by Last Child
    What's wrong with knowing not only knowing how to do it but how to do it right and add even more enjoyment? Ahhh, that's probably it. We don't wan't the kiddies to know just how enjoyable it is.
    I don't have a problem with that at all. Just don't do it in our publicly funded school system. If you wanna enroll your kids in a pornography and smutfest class in a private school -- by all means knock yourself out. Good for you and your sexually active kiddies.


    You have to admit that Stacy probably didn't expect much less want to see orgasms and talk about G spots when she enrolled in a healthy lifestyles class in her high school.
    So let me get this straight. Because "my kids" who are better informed about the sexual procedure, std's, how to prevent std's and pregnancy they are automatically going to be "sexually active"?

    Or are they going to make better and wiser choices because they are educated and know all about these things. Add to that the fact that they are probably going to be closer and more open to me because I have the respect to teach and prepare them for difficult life choices and we can talk about the uncomfortable comfortably.

    Do you think Stacy would have been "uncomfortable" if you had already had these discussions with her and she was already prepared for this?

    It's only sex. Good grief.

    Kind of weird how our kids can watch literally thousands of killings, murders, etc. every year on tv, movies, internet, etc. But Janet Jackson shows some areola and the world must stop spinning. Our values are all F'D UP in my opinion.

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    Re: Sex In Wyoming

    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin
    They are also discussing what a "G-spot" is, and how to stimulate it.
    This myth and the myth of evolution should not be taught in public schools.



    James

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Child
    So let me get this straight. Because "my kids" who are better informed about the sexual procedure, std's, how to prevent std's and pregnancy they are automatically going to be "sexually active"?

    Or are they going to make better and wiser choices because they are educated and know all about these things. Add to that the fact that they are probably going to be closer and more open to me because I have the respect to teach and prepare them for difficult life choices and we can talk about the uncomfortable comfortably.

    Do you think Stacy would have been "uncomfortable" if you had already had these discussions with her and she was already prepared for this?

    It's only sex. Good grief.

    Kind of weird how our kids can watch literally thousands of killings, murders, etc. every year on tv, movies, internet, etc. But Janet Jackson shows some areola and the world must stop spinning. Our values are all F'D UP in my opinion.

    You're not hearing what I'm saying. Hey man -- I AGREE with everything you just said here. Especially that last paragraph -- violence and drugs are OK, but as soon as they roll out the boobies on TV, then that's just unacceptable. ??? F'ed up for sure.

    What I'm saying is -- teaching our kids about orgasms, and playing explicit music in class is not academically meaningful. It's a waste of time. If you're gonna teach about std's and contraception fine - I don't have a problem with that, but leave the porn, orgasms and gspots out of it.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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