HOUSE BILL 187 = LIMINTNG USE OF WATERWAYS!

[DODGER BOY]

HERE WE GO UTAH AT IT ONCE AGAIN!
CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW CROWDED THIS WILL MAKE THE "14 SECTIONS" THAT ARE LEGAL TO GO ON?

Bill would close all but sections of 14 Utah riverbeds to anglers, boaters

By Associated Press

10:00 AM MST, February 12, 2009
SALT LAKE CITY (AP)

[live2ride]

What a crock of shit, I am so sick of these bullshit attempts due to boredom to close down the waterways.

[James_B_Wads2000]

It doesn't say why they want to do it.



James

[PolarXJ]

I came across this on another forum.

http://www.petitiononline.com/21809/

Its a petition going against it.

[theking648]

It doesn't say why they want to do it.



James

last year a supreme court ruled that the stream beds of private land are public. as long as you llegally recreate and access the water from a public access point you can fish private property. (you have to stay in the water)

but if you go to utahonthefly.com they have 20 threads that are about 10 pages long talking about this bill.

[theking648]

i would also like to say that that information is not accurate. it won't close all other waters. just those sections of water will have limitations on it. but alot of people have misunderstood the bill. even I had a hard time reading it.. I had to read the stupid bill 3 times.

this is a good read. http://scarles.org/blog/

heres HB 187 http://le.utah.gov/~2009/bills/hbillint/hb0187s01.htm

I don't see how a pattion is going to help??? but there is a way to help... Write/call/email your representatives

[offpiste]

I have written my rep. got a lame answer back. The bill will close waters that were opened to anglers by the state supreme court, as long as we did no harm to the surrounding ground, the angler stayed within the water ways they were good to fish any water. This bill wishes to take that opportunity away.

Keep writing, calling and emailing maybe we will get heard, but with the money backing this I doubt we get heard at all.

[JP]

las long as you access the water from a public access point you can fish private property. (you have to stay in the water)

That's the way Connecticut has been forever. There are a few exceptions like with Water Company parcels, but that's just about it.

[UTJetdog]

theking648 wrote:

as long as you access the water from a public access point you can fish private property. (you have to stay in the water)

That's the way Connecticut has been forever.

That's because many years ago the federal government mandated that it be so for all states. However, especially here in the west, states have written their own legislation to override it. And until last year, the courts in Utah have upheld it. IMO, this is just more state legislation to undermine last years unanimous ruling by state supreme court.

a lot of people have misunderstood the bill. I had a hard time reading it.

I think that's key. If this bill is as benign as it is purported to be, then what is its purpose and why is it necessary? Vague language and unclear intent should raise suspicion. Lack of clarity=bad legislation unless you have ulterior motives.

[JP]

There's really no issues here with it at all, I guess that's what you get when it's been around for so long and not something new.