autoblock/self-belay

[Felicia]

You guys have not lost me yet! (My job is action entry - about 1500 5-6 letter codes all day long....)

Seriously: Thanks for all the info.

[Felicia]

Tom

ps. the "Book" is of course, the Ashley Book of Knots.

That is an expensive book!

[ratagonia]

Hi Tom,

On the second page, in the photo captioned: Tom jugs back up to the top, 2nd rappel. what is on the rope parallel to you that appears red in color?

Thanks!

Sorry. Did not read that question correctly.

Up there on the rope is one of the rope bags. The pull side consisted of a 200' pull cord (bottom) and a 125' 8mm (top). When I load the rope bags, I poke the bottom out the bottom grommet and tie it off to the bottom web on the outside. When tying on another line, it can be tied directly to the tail of the rope coming out the bottom. The advantage is that the bag is in the right place when you are ready to re-stuff the rope. Also allows deploying the rope out of the bag, even when having to tie two ropes together for the pull.

Tom

[ratagonia]

Tom

ps. the "Book" is of course, the Ashley Book of Knots.

That is an expensive book!

Ebay, baby.!!!

T

[snatch]

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Enjoy.

Tom

Hi Tom,

Would you explain the rope set up in the last picture on the first page captioned: Rapping over the edge, second rap...

Is the biner off the leg loop for rope management or for rappel (friction) control or for both?

Why the need for a biner that gives extra friction when the prana allows the adjustment of friction on the fly?

[ratagonia]

up on Latest Rave:
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Enjoy. Tom

Hi Tom,

Would you explain the rope set up in the last picture on the first page captioned: Rapping over the edge, second rap...

Is the biner off the leg loop for rope management or for rappel (friction) control or for both?

Why the need for a biner that gives extra friction when the prana allows the adjustment of friction on the fly?

The Pirana is good up to a point. But, for me, 180lbs, on a brand new slickish 8mm rope, the standard "2" setting is far from enough friction. For me, I used a (left) leg loop biner up to another biner on the eye of the Pirana (a Z rig) which worked great.

The problem is, given the rope, conditions, etc, can you get the right level of friction across the length of the long rappel? I find the Pirana by itself not so adjustable - 'cause it has a gap in friction settings.

Sarah uses an autobloc because that is what she is used to. At 105 lbs, she can get a good rig on the "2" setting; however, she is used to and likes the autobloc.

T