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Thread: Not Mindbender Retreat???
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09-11-2008, 10:45 AM #1
Not Mindbender Retreat???
Is it possible to leave ropes and go to the final rappel in not mindbender(not down) and retreat. How hard is the climb up the moki steps to get out from the bottom?
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09-11-2008 10:45 AM # ADS
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09-11-2008, 10:53 AM #2
Two places off the top of my head where you would have to leave ropes. One at the final, which would be a bitch in and of itself to jug back up due to its freehanging nature and lip at the top. The other one I can think of is a 30 footer mid canyon. The Moki steps are'nt that hard. A rope spot takes all the nerve factor out of it.
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09-11-2008, 11:27 AM #3
Re: Not Mindbender Retreat???
Originally Posted by qedcook
Moki steps aren't bad. I usually lead it without a pack, then belay everyone else up with their packs on. It is rather high, however, though the holds are big (but it is kind of balancy). I'd be concerned if it is wet (because holds break, when wet).
Tom
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09-11-2008, 05:36 PM #4
final rappel
I heard a rumor the final rappel was bolted? Is this true? Anyone been there recently to know how the chokestones are? Thanks in advance.
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09-11-2008, 09:52 PM #5
Re: final rappel
Originally Posted by qedcook
It is likely to be messy down there, and sometimes there is a swim or two after rain, like now.
Tom
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