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Bogley BigShot
Zion Pinecreek
Finally got to do the famous "by the ZION tunnel bridge" Pinecreek on Wednesday July 23. That is one popular canyon. When we got to the trailhead, there was already two other groups gearing up. Big contrast too. We got all decked out with wetsuits and fancy canyon gear. The group behind us went in with swimsuits, flipflops and coiled ropes slung over shoulders. They screamed a lot. Pinecreek was full of water. Those are pretty deep grooves that have developed over time at the last free hang rappel. We really enjoyed Pinecreek. I am sure we will do it again.
Don't believe everything you think.
-Borrowed from a bumper sticker I believe
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07-30-2008 03:32 PM
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Bogley BigShot
I love those photos in that yucky soupy mess. Great shots! Thanks for showing them to us!
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Zions the "s" is silent
Re: Zion Pinecreek TR
Originally Posted by
french_de
Those are pretty deep grooves that have developed over time at the last free hang rappel.
The rope grooves are when that rappel was from/near the arch. Now the rapple orientation has changed. Heard it was the Emperor himself that changed it up.
thanks fro TR
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Re: Zion Pinecreek TR
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Those are pretty deep grooves that have developed over time at the last free hang rappel.
The rope grooves are when that rappel was from/near the arch. Now the rapple orientation has changed. Heard it was the Emperor himself that changed it up.
thanks fro TR
I imagine it was easier to start the rappel back then. It is a little more difficult now where one has to swing out to the left and immediatly go free hang.
Don't believe everything you think.
-Borrowed from a bumper sticker I believe
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Zions the "s" is silent
Re: Zion Pinecreek TR
Originally Posted by
french_de
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Those are pretty deep grooves that have developed over time at the last free hang rappel.
The rope grooves are when that rappel was from/near the arch. Now the rapple orientation has changed. Heard it was the Emperor himself that changed it up.
thanks fro TR
I imagine it was easier to start the rappel back then. It is a little more difficult now where one has to swing out to the left and immediatly go free hang.
Yeah, I don't like it how the system isn't weighted to double check everything. I sit there and think am I going to fall . . .
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Re: Zion Pinecreek TR
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Those are pretty deep grooves that have developed over time at the last free hang rappel.
The rope grooves are when that rappel was from/near the arch. Now the rapple orientation has changed. Heard it was the Emperor himself that changed it up.
thanks fro TR
I imagine it was easier to start the rappel back then. It is a little more difficult now where one has to swing out to the left and immediatly go free hang.
Yeah, I don't like it how the system isn't weighted to double check everything. I sit there and think am I going to fall . . .
The original rap was difficult to start, too. If rigged high and tight, the new one ain't bad. If you cannot figure out how to pre-test (weight) your rap system without jumping over the edge, then you make me worry about you...
Tom
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Rookie
Re: Zion Pinecreek TR
Originally Posted by
ratagonia
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Those are pretty deep grooves that have developed over time at the last free hang rappel.
The rope grooves are when that rappel was from/near the arch. Now the rapple orientation has changed. Heard it was the Emperor himself that changed it up.
thanks fro TR
I imagine it was easier to start the rappel back then. It is a little more difficult now where one has to swing out to the left and immediatly go free hang.
Yeah, I don't like it how the system isn't weighted to double check everything. I sit there and think am I going to fall . . .
The original rap was difficult to start, too. If rigged high and tight, the new one ain't bad. If you cannot figure out how to pre-test (weight) your rap system without jumping over the edge, then you make me worry about you...
Tom
Anything is better than what was there before. It looked like the rope easily got stuck in those grooves.
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Zions the "s" is silent
Re: Zion Pinecreek TR
Originally Posted by
ratagonia
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Originally Posted by
trackrunner
Originally Posted by
french_de
Those are pretty deep grooves that have developed over time at the last free hang rappel.
The rope grooves are when that rappel was from/near the arch. Now the rapple orientation has changed. Heard it was the Emperor himself that changed it up.
thanks fro TR
I imagine it was easier to start the rappel back then. It is a little more difficult now where one has to swing out to the left and immediatly go free hang.
Yeah, I don't like it how the system isn't weighted to double check everything. I sit there and think am I going to fall . . .
The original rap was difficult to start, too. If rigged high and tight, the new one ain't bad. If you cannot figure out how to pre-test (weight) your rap system without jumping over the edge, then you make me worry about you...
Tom
Yes I know it is better than the original start.
I always test the system before, even a pine creek. It's right when I'm about to swing over the edge and the system loses its weightness (?) is when I get scared. Should have clarrified that, previous statment makes seem like I rappel without checking. I know it will work, but still.
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Outdoor Guru
That last rap still freaks me out. I am afraid of heights. I am usually ok with other rappels but that last one with the wind blowing and nothing below you. Gets me every time (twice).