Our possible replacement...

[Redpb]

ahhh hell, I guess it's either him or the former crack addict.

[moabfool]

Yah, it's between him and the guy the doesn't know how many states there are.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws[/youtube]

On a side note, there are 57 Islamic States.

[DiscGo]

What a crazy political time that these are the two choices left.

[Mtnman1830]

My vote is for "NONE OF THE ABOVE"

[moabfool]

What a crazy political time that these are the two choices left.

Left, LOL. That's where they both stand. One might get elected because he's playing the "It's Time For a (insert protected status here) to be President" card. The other is a RINO (Republican In Name Only). We're screwed.

[James_B_Wads2000]

Ha ha you Republicans are screwed! I like John McCain because the die hard conservatives think he is too liberal. McCain too liberal

[moabfool]

[quote=James_B_Wads2000]Ha ha you Republicans are screwed! I like John McCain because the die hard conservatives think he is too liberal. McCain too liberal

[bbennett]

What happened to the Truman's and the Roosevelt's of the world. I don't remember ever having anyone decent to vote for. How can they say that every vote counts when there's only two douche bags that you can choose from. I know there are others running but these two are the only ones that actually stand a chance. I don't think I'll even bother this time.

[DiscGo]

Guiliani ran a dumb campaign but I believe he would have been a great President.

[BruteForce]

This election year (as most in my recollection) really sucks. Although I favor McCain and generally fall in a mostly conservative view-point, I hope its not another GW Bush, Part 2 Administration (should he be elected).

On the other hand, and being totally NON-PC (as is usually my style), I just can't in good conscience vote for Obama. He speaks eloquently about issues, but is far too liberal and too junior to be seriously considered. I also disagree with his foreign positions (Iraq, etc). He is NOT the Messiah the press make him out to be.

Where's another Roosevelt or Eisenhower when we need one? Why is it that for the last 40+ years, we've always had to pick one of two terrible turds to be elected? Why have we allowed our system to require a candidate to be a multi-millionaire?

On a sidenote, I understand Congress is considering a bill to eliminate the Electoral College; if that happens we'll become a complete Socialist country - God help us then!

As an additional side-note, Duncan Hunter may have made a good candidate.

[moabfool]

Guiliani ran a dumb campaign but I believe he would have been a great President.

People who were running that would've been better IMNSHO

-Thompson
-Romney (he's still be in it if he would've kept his story straight)
-Guiliani (Sorry Rocky Anderson, America can only have one mayor).

and I've almost changed my mind about Hillary. Her biggest mistake is being married to Bill.

I got this in an e-mail. It's outdated, but I still think it's funny.

We, in Ireland, can't figure out why people are even bothering
to hold an election in the United States.

On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer that's married to a
lawyer, running against a lawyer that's married to a bitch who
is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a war hero who is married to a hot blonde who owns a beer distributorship.

What are you lads thinking over there?'

[BruteForce]

We, in Ireland, can't figure out why people are even bothering
to hold an election in the United States.

On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer that's married to a
lawyer, running against a lawyer that's married to a bitch who
is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a war hero who is married to a hot blonde who owns a beer distributorship.

What are you lads thinking over there?'

Ha! I got that message too. It's just about on-target!

[James_B_Wads2000]

On a sidenote, I understand Congress is considering a bill to eliminate the Electoral College; if that happens we'll become a complete Socialist country - God help us then!

I haven't heard that one. Got any sources? Doesn

[Randi]

Guiliani ran a dumb campaign but I believe he would have been a great President.

Serj for President!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy6eingHcOs

I LOVE this guy!

He's my hero!!!!
If he ran, I'd vote for him!

[moabfool]

[quote=James_B_Wads2000]The way that Utahans talk up Romney is such a thin veiled attempt to try and make it look like you are not just voting in a fellow Mo-mo. These are the same people that get so pissed when African Americans say they will vote for Obama because he is black

[James_B_Wads2000]

[quote=moabfool]

[moabfool]

I think Romney is insane to any rational person who listens to him speak.

Exactly how I feel about Obama and his party. Heck, I feel that way about a good chunk of what McCain says. My mileage definitely does vary.

While I will never agree that it's "time" for a black or a woman to be president (that implies that gender or race superceeds genuine ability), I will say that I think America is ready (implies a social climate change/preparation, not a need) for a black or a woman to be president, which is a much needed change. When the right one runs for the office I'll vote for them. Maybe in 2012 .

[DiscGo]

I don't know any liberals who were going to vote for Romney because he was Mormon (and a lot of my family friends are teachers and so by default are all democrats :)). These Mormons friends are all Obama supporters. A lot of black people including conservatives support Obama because of his color and have openly admitted it.

Just because you dislike Romney doesn't mean he is insane. I'd be curious what it is you don't like about him? He was a democrat in the 90's and is now a Republican. He switched his view on abortion which now coincides with the Republican party and he developed an innovative solution to health care in MA as Governor and has a deep understanding of the economy.

Romney was not my first pick for President but there isn't anything horrible about him. His wife didn't make any comments about being "the first time she was proud to be an American", he had a platform that was striaght forward and addressed the issues.

Obama speaks in an ideal fashion but seldom really addresses the issues and when he does he is usually on the wrong side of them (if you are against socialism). He does not have much in the way of experience because half of his time in the national political scene has been open campaigning for the Presidency and all he really has going for him is that he is an incredible speaker and does do a very effective job of promising hope (something our country currently needs). As much as he promises it, I don't know a politician that stays in office who fulfills campaign promises.


So in the end Romney had the political views of many conservative Mormons which makes sense they would support him and Obama has a very liberal stance which makes no sense for conservatives to support him. So as much as you would like to call the Mormons hypocrites for supporting a Mormon who is in line with their views, you are just way off on this one.


As I said before he wasn't my top pick but he was the top pick for several of my non-Mormon friends.

[James_B_Wads2000]

I think Romney is insane to any rational person who listens to him speak.

Exactly how I feel about Obama and his party. Heck, I feel that way about a good chunk of what McCain says. My mileage definitely does vary.

Good then we can agree to disagree. That

[Deathcricket]

I don't know if that's a fair trade though. Being Mormon has a whole bunch of ideals that come along with it. Religious views are central to ones character and voting strategy. So i can see being a Mormon and voting for a fellow Mormon. Same beliefs, so they feel the same on most issues.

I do agree with your line of thinking "let not vote for Obama cause he's black and it would be cool to witness the 1st black president in my lifetime, who cares where he stands on issues" debate though.