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02-25-2008, 08:52 AM #1
Grooves or Garbage VOTE OR DIE!!!
In the rapelling thread the topic came up of the rope grooves on a rap in Spry canyon (see pictures below). Would it be worth it to tie a piece of carpet to protect the rock or would that "ruin your experience". Vote it up.
Please keep this debate respectful we are all friends here.
The man thong is wrong.
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02-25-2008 08:52 AM # ADS
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02-25-2008, 09:18 AM #2
Why not extend some slings over the edge of the cliff, so the rap ring or rapide is over the edge? Set up a courtesy rap for everyone but the last person down, let them deal with an awkward start, if it is in fact awkward. No garbage, no grooves.
I haven't done Spry, so I'm not sure what the anchor is at this point.
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02-25-2008, 09:25 AM #3
Yeah.... I think the correct answer should be re-rig the rappel.
A properly rigged anchor should not leave grooves. The grooves are the result of some gumby rigging the rappel and everyone else being to lazy to rig it correctly.
Leaving a piece of carpet is NOT the answer.
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02-25-2008, 10:17 AM #4
Ah, I get it now. I'm not sure why this didn't occur to me. I think it would be reasonably easy to rig that rap in spry with a little more webbing. I guess we learn something everyday.
WAIT!!! Did I just see Carpey and Ice agree on something. Is it the end of the world?The man thong is wrong.
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02-25-2008, 10:25 AM #5Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
Concur.It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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02-25-2008, 10:40 AM #6
The one down side to re-rigging the anchor is that it can make the start a little more difficult, particularly for beginners. You could leave the anchor as is for the beginners (Posers in Rich speak) and then re-rig correctly for the last person down (the guy with credentials in Rich Speak).
Originally Posted by Jaxx
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02-25-2008, 10:47 AM #7
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02-25-2008, 10:57 AM #8Originally Posted by Iceaxe
What is the best technique for starting with the rapid below the lip?The man thong is wrong.
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02-25-2008, 11:08 AM #9Originally Posted by Jaxx
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02-25-2008, 11:14 AM #10Originally Posted by JaxxIt's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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02-25-2008, 11:15 AM #11
sweet thanks for the tips!
The man thong is wrong.
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02-25-2008, 01:52 PM #12
3 easy steps to fix that edge and make everyone happy
1. Fill in the existing grooves with a tan colored mortar mix.
2. Put a piece of PVC coping over the entire edge. You could glue it down with JB-weld.
3. Go to the left side and jackhammer about 10 steps in the sandstone. Maybe a "spiral staircase" effect I think. The "scary" drop is what is causing most of the problems.
Fixed!
P.S. I'm just kidding, what the wise ones above me said
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02-25-2008, 02:04 PM #13Originally Posted by rockgremlin
In typical canyon use: "Yo Rockgremlin, give me a courtesy anchor here, you can do the monkeyhumper start."
If you are having a hard time visualizing, it will all make sense the first time you see someone try to do an awkward start off a chockstone anchor in the skinnies.
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