Ruins

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not all ruins are difficult to reach, if your eyes are open

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Indeed. That hike stayed on my to do list for 9 years before getting checked off...

by Jared Payne, on Flickr

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[kiwi_outdoors]

the photo of the fiber with knots n them, makes me wonder what knots the Anasazi-era indians used that the europeans also used (i.e., developed concurrently but independently)

[Byron]

I figured they probably learned simple knots before they mastered starting a fire?

[kiwi_outdoors]

from the WWW:
The oldest fossils of rope and knots are estimated to be 15,000 to 17,000 years old. Knots are thought to be even older that, as they are assumed to have been used alongside some of the earliest stone tools.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)] The use of flints to start fire may have occurred as far back as 400,000 years ago, but concrete evidence only comes from as recently as 40,000 years ago.

so fire likely wins the race :-)[/COLOR]

[Byron]

from the WWW:
The oldest fossils of rope and knots are estimated to be 15,000 to 17,000 years old. Knots are thought to be even older that, as they are assumed to have been used alongside some of the earliest stone tools.

[COLOR=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.95)] The use of flints to start fire may have occurred as far back as 400,000 years ago, but concrete evidence only comes from as recently as 40,000 years ago.

so fire likely wins the race :-)[/COLOR]

Wow...I would have never figured that. While I think the fire thing was probably figured really early on, you would think they would have figured how to secure a bundle of anything before that...like transporting something numerous back to a cave/shelter/campsite. Pretty big spread on those numbers...I say the jury is still out.

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[Scott Card]

Question, are you all finding stuff around these sites still or have they all pretty well been picked clean? Asking for a friend.