n00bfest June 6-8th 2008 in Zion National Park

[tanya]

Bo... of course you are nominated.

Permit Experts

What is the process for others that want to apply for permits. I know there is an online way to do it, but don't they have to go and take some class first?

What is our best bet right now to get more permits other than what you can get?

Getting Das Boot and the Subway would be cool. We could do the Russel Gulch entry so they can get in 3 - 100' rappels too! -- then all the fun downclimbs in Das Boot and the beauty of the Subway. Then of course the delightful uphill hike out. -- or if there is not enough permits some can do Russel Gulch, some Das Boot and all meet in the Subway?



https://zionpermits.nps.gov/

https://zionpermits.nps.gov/backcoun...m?TripTypeID=3

https://zionpermits.nps.gov/lotteryapply.cfm

[Randi]

Bo... of course you are nominated.

Permit Experts

What is the process for others that want to apply for permits. I know there is an online way to do it, but don't they have to go and take some class first?

What is our best bet right now to get more permits other than what you can get?

Getting Das Boot and the Subway would be cool. We could do the Russel Gulch entry so they can get in 3 - 100' rappels too! -- then all the fun downclimbs in Das Boot and the beauty of the Subway. Then of course the delightful uphill hike out. -- or if there is not enough permits some can do Russel Gulch, some Das Boot and all meet in the Subway?



https://zionpermits.nps.gov/

https://zionpermits.nps.gov/lotteryapply.cfm

COOL that Zion got picked! YAY!
This is gonna be FUN!

Shane, you HAVE to come!!!! I don't see how it can be a "true" bogleyFest without "certain" players.

I'd like to do Das Boot & Subway, but the lottery isn't running for June yet!
I would need a navigator for this one, as I can't be trusted
to read, draw or follow a map.
I have ropes & know how to use them for what its worth, so I am "good' for something!

Canyons I could lead without navigational help
would be Keyhole & Pine Creek....
Anyone have an interest in those canyons?
We could do both in one day.

What about hidden from the top?
Anyone interested in that one?
I've hiked up from the bottom and it's really beautiful, but I've not done it from the top.

Or I could "help" out on anything really.

[Randi]

How did you get a permit for Subway Bo? Oh that's right - you've got connections!

I would like to do this one on Sat., but if I'm needed somewhere else, I'll go wherever I'm needed.
I thought you were undecided Shane ~ happy to see you're going to be there.

Hank should be number 20!!!!!

Sign up Hank - Pleeeeeeaze?

[Iceaxe]

Dang.... I go to bed last night and I'm a firm maybe.... and today I wake up and notice I'm signed up as trip leader.

[abirken]

NOOB NEEDS HELP.........

Ok so I haven't done anything that requires a permit. Someone please tell me what I should do? Steer me in the right direction. Thanks!

[Iceaxe]

I never used steroids....

So what does the little asterisk by my name mean?

[tanya]

I never used steroids....

So what does the little asterisk by my name mean?

You are a Master... a leader.. of course.

[abirken]

Ok well I just don't want to miss out on the fun b/c I was being a slacker or anything. So please you guys keep me updated if there is anything I need to know or do..........thanks!!

[Randi]

No permits... we will do non-permitted canyons unless some problems get worked out. But everyone still apply for them.

I think your post just said something like right on with what is going on.. right?

Oh dang! Sorry Randi! I was replying to your post and wrote over it! I am so sorry!!!!

[Randi]

No permits... we will do non-permitted canyons unless some problems get worked out. But everyone still apply for them.

I think your post just said something like right on with what is going on.. right?

Oh dang! Sorry Randi! I was replying to your post and wrote over it! I am so sorry!!!!

No problem.
But, who are you, who wrote over my post?

[Iceaxe]

Shane - Rock... What's up? This is what we can do. What are we going to do.

Just get the folks inside the church and seated in the pews.... we'll decide which songs to sing and in what order later.

[Randi]

Update

Leaders: Rock and Shane
Helpers: Bo, Shaggy, Randi, Jax, Nelson, Jason
Date: June 6-8th, 2008
Place: Zion

1 Shane*
2. Rock*
3. Bo*
4. Shaggy*
5. Nelson*
6. Price - Jason*
7. Jax*
8. Randi*
9. Alex
10. Justin - 'Beech
11. Scott - Acca
12. Trackrunner
13. Alison - Abirken
14. Mrs. Jax
15. Lynn - LJ
16. SLCmountainjunkee
17. Felicia
18. John
19. Tanya
20. Adam
21. Sarah
22. Hank
23.
24. Last person

No more than 24 total



Birch Hollow - unlimited and one of the best!
1. Everyone

Fat Man's Misery - unlimited and although a long hike, fun canyon!
1. Everyone

Red Hollow - unlimited - fun but no ropes involved
1. Everyone

Yankee Doodle - unlimited - fun with 1 rappel and lots of downclimbs
1. Everyone


Thoughts?

Hidden from the top? Does that need permits?


It seems that we need to choose a maximum number than can attend too, so if you are not coming for sure take your name off the list so others can. We have 20 now. More than 24 would be a problem for sure.



Shane - Rock... What's up? This is what we can do. What are we going to do.

I took the liberty of signing Hank up cuz he's outta town & might be unable to get to bogly mail. Can I do that?
He can remove his name when he gets back if'n he doesn't want to come......

[tanya]

No permits... we will do non-permitted canyons unless some problems get worked out. But everyone still apply for them.

I think your post just said something like right on with what is going on.. right?

Oh dang! Sorry Randi! I was replying to your post and wrote over it! I am so sorry!!!!

No problem.
But, who are you, who wrote over my post?

.

Me I forget I have such power sometimes!

I get carried away.

[tanya]

Shane - Rock... What's up? This is what we can do. What are we going to do.

Just get the folks inside the church and seated in the pews.... we'll decide which songs to sing and in what order later.

You got it!

[Jaxx]

My wife hasn't done Pinecreek yet. So I would love to get her in there. I also would love to do Das Boot. Of course the Permits make for problems. I will do whatever but I'm crossing my fingers.

[greyhair biker]

damn...one of these days I'm gonna be able to do this...schedule just doesnt mesh then

[Iceaxe]

Tanya - I don't know how you are compiling your list.... but make sure everyone on it is committed in the next week or so. That way you can open up the empty slots.

At the Black Hole fest we only had one no-show..... at the 2007 Zion fest we had zero no-shows....

My rule when organizing trips is if you commit and then flake without removing your name you are not welcome on anther trip I organize.... it's only common curtesy and common sense.

[James_B_Wads2000]

Hey that weekend would work for me. I wouldn

[tanya]

damn...one of these days I'm gonna be able to do this...schedule just doesnt mesh then

Take care of it! Just take the days off.... Hurry... 2 seats left.

Just do it!!!!

[Iceaxe]

[quote=James_B_Wads2000]Where is everybody saying? Camping? Hotels? Under Tayna