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01-28-2008, 08:06 PM #21
Nah 'Beech, this one is better. I think it is from a uutah tannerite shoot out last summer. You guys are awesome! Make sure to invite me next time.
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01-28-2008 08:06 PM # ADS
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01-29-2008, 09:53 AM #22
Camper wasn't mine. Did I blow it up? Yes! Did I clean up the mess after the tanny? No! Do I give a rats ass that the mess is still there? Hell no! But, if you really wanna pitch a fit about Big Carpet Meister, PM me and we'll both go out there, finish it off with the gallon jug o' tanny, and then load the pile onto a flat bed and haul it to the dump.
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01-29-2008, 10:08 AM #23Originally Posted by ReedusThe man thong is wrong.
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01-29-2008, 11:26 AM #24Originally Posted by Reedus
If you are serious about cleaning it up, let me know. Where is it?
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01-29-2008, 12:46 PM #25
If you guys go out and clean it up, you're taking a chance of getting caught.
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01-29-2008, 04:25 PM #26Originally Posted by Sombeech
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01-29-2008, 04:28 PM #27
Didn't you guys see "No Country For Old Men"? When he went back to give the Mexican some water, that's when it all went wrong.
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01-30-2008, 08:47 AM #28Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
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01-30-2008, 09:04 AM #29
Location: 10 miles south of Fairfield. Then 2 miles west up in a dead end box canyon.
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01-30-2008, 09:12 AM #30Originally Posted by Reedus
I like to frequent cascade meadows, near the base of Cascade Mountain, usually to do some photography or just some relaxation. The meadow is fenced by a log fence, due to the fragile nature of the place. It seems just about every weekend now, this same type of activity that your are applauding, now happens up there. Even with signs that clearly prohibit these activities. I don't understand why someone would drive up to a beautiful viewpoint, proceed to unload all sorts of junk from their trucks, get out their guns, start shooting it all up, and then leave the mess. Yeah, I've spent plenty of afternoons cleaning up shotgun shells, beer cans, car tires, huge fire rings in the middle of natural meadows, 55 gallon drums, etc...
I've tried to nicely suggest to a group of 19 or 20 year olds that these meadows should not be used as a shooting range, especially considering they have to drive right past the Provo range to get there. And trust me, when trying to talk to people with a bunch of firearms, I try to suggest as nicely as possible. At any rate, they prefer the place because they can sit at the top of the hill, and launch stuff down into the meadows while trying to shoot it. That was their explanation.
Their justification is equally as ignorant as yours is. Doesn't really matter if you owned it or not. We should be cleaning this type of activity up, not promoting it, or making it worse. People also shoot up 'glyphs and raid cultural sites for entertainment. I probably shouldn't, but I can't help but lump those types of people in with you and this type of crowd. Celebrating nonsensical destruction in the name of entertainment? All seems to come from the same camp. Hopefully it doesn't.
It's fine if you want to do it for entertainment. But realize the impact your ignorance is making on others who also want to enjoy the land, and more importantly, your impact on the land itself. The ethic is simple, minimize your impact.
Also, I doubt the "locals" trashed it. People don't tend to destroy their own backyards. They take it to other people's backyards, so they don't have to see it. And then I guess they blow it up. Don't blame the mess on everyone else. Take responsibility for the fact that you left the place in worse condition than you found it.
Unless, of course, that isn't your cup o' tea. Then, just leave it for someone else to clean it up.
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01-30-2008, 09:24 AM #31
Don't get me wrong.... I enjoy blowing things up as much as the next guy, but I'm of the opinion that if we're not helping keep our public lands clean, we risk losing our access to them. I'm not down with that.
Maybe this would be a good opportunity for the Bogley community to step up and contact the BLM and see about them assiting in a clean-up of the area. It'd be good publicity. I'm sure that the Geocaching community would participate if invited, too. CITO is good for everybody!
I used to take my Scout troop up to the closest shooting area back in So Cal and participate in the USFS-sponsored clean-up efforts so the place would stay open for the public to use. The last one we took part it, we removed over 3 tons of rubbish/debris in about 2 hours. I think we had around 100 or so people there, but with it being a group effort, it was pretty quick and the results very noticible.
You stated it was SSW of Fairfield, but would you happen to have the GPS coords for the exact area?"All roads, all codes!"
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01-30-2008, 09:54 AM #32
Okay, maybe i need to change my attitude. Unlike Big Carpet, I enjoy guns and explosions. Something about a big bang that make me smile and laugh. But at the same time I have to agree on leaving the place better then when I found it. Yes, the surrounding area where the trailer is is worse than when I found it. The ole' tanny did its job. The question is how to get that trailer out of there. The mess can be cleaned up with a flatbed, but that trailer is not capable of being moved without new tires being put on. Any donors? Any body with a fifth wheel hitch?
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01-30-2008, 09:56 AM #33
No GPS coordinates. My GPS was stolen
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01-30-2008, 11:15 AM #34Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
The most cost effective cleanup of a place like that usually is a dozer. In a couple of years you wont see any trace of the cleanup. Just the new tires, fridges and stoves.
I've done it.
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02-08-2008, 05:34 PM #35Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
OHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damn Redus! I think Ol
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02-08-2008, 07:49 PM #36
Ya he did in this thread. I can appreciate where he is coming from and have to agree with him. I admit I was wrong to blow the camper up and leave it be.
Bitch-ass huh? Back to your old self James.
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02-08-2008, 09:33 PM #37Originally Posted by Reedus
Excellent, Reedus! I'm really impressed at your attitude there. So many people would keep on saying the same things over and over, get their backs up against a wall about it.
And I don't totally get the "things that go boom" thing, but I can see how a good explosion could be pretty cool.
I would think that this one would be easier to clean up, being in the middle of a parking lot, in the middle of Salt Lake City:
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02-09-2008, 08:06 PM #38
Beech, from your vid on, they no longer exist
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02-10-2008, 04:00 PM #39
Blowing shit up is pretty fun but what a mess... and on public land. I am rather shocked to see that site admins supporting this considering the ethical standards in the other areas of this site. I few months ago I even had someone make comments about us riding on a muddy trail..... yet destroying private property on public land all while making one hell of a mess is ok?
What if this was posted with a TR in the hiking or canyoneering forums? people would freak.
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10-13-2008, 11:55 AM #40
Can someone post the coordinates of where that trash pile is located?
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