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11-25-2007, 02:28 PM #1
Granary Canyon?
Does anyone have any beta on a canyon around moab called Granary Canyon?
Thanks
Mark
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11-25-2007 02:28 PM # ADS
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11-25-2007, 09:38 PM #2
www.deserthighlights.com -- Look under "Single day adventures"
My guess is that it empties out somewhere along the Amasa Back road.It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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11-26-2007, 05:51 AM #3
They list a 45 minute drive to the begining. That takes you quite aways out of town. The website list 2000 ft of vertical drop. Thats pretty hard to obtain in the moab area.
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11-26-2007, 06:17 AM #4Originally Posted by moab mark
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11-26-2007, 07:34 AM #5Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
Just recently I caught wind of a "pretty good slot" just off the La Sal Loop road...stay tuned...It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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11-26-2007, 08:09 AM #6
Last time I checked the LaSals do not resemble slickrock. So I do not think the canyon adventure is coming off the top of those mtns to the Southeast.
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11-26-2007, 08:20 AM #7
45 minutes driving time is not very far, particularly if dirt roads are involved. 2000' of elevation describes just about the entire Moab area.
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11-26-2007, 08:28 AM #8Originally Posted by moab mark
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11-26-2007, 08:55 AM #9Originally Posted by moab markIt's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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11-26-2007, 09:25 AM #10
yea I agree it has to drop down to the colorado. They state at Desert Highlights that the shuttle can be done with a rental car. So the road cannot be to rough. So they can't drop off of Poison spider/Golden Spike or Cliff Hanger on the other side. They could go out around Spring Canyon on the Green river side thats about 45 minutes and you can drive a car down to the river but there is not alot of sandstone out there either. Or out Hurrah Pass area. Dead horse is 2000 ft. vertical but not exactly slick rock in that area either. Maybe I'll have to just pay them to take me but that takes all the fun out of it. Could be down in the Newspaper Rock area thats about 45 minutes from town. Or the 2000' vertical drop is incorrect and it could be anywhere. We've done all the ones on Climb Utah in the moab area and are looking for new adventures.
Mark
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11-26-2007, 09:32 AM #11Originally Posted by moab mark
Originally Posted by moab mark
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11-26-2007, 09:46 AM #12
Yea Rental Cars are pretty impressive but I want to watch one do Posion Golden or Cliff Hanger. I'll bring the strap to help get it back out of kane creek at the bottom of CLiff Hanger. Oh you had an earlier post on here of a new canyon in Moab you were doing over Thanksgiving, did you go and if you did, did it have a granary in the middle of it. Since taking this canyoneering activity up I am suprised there are not more slot canyons in this area.
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11-26-2007, 10:39 AM #13
Granary = definitely not in the area of Newspaper Rock, although I suspect there might be a few decent canyoneering routes in that vicinity, especially going over towards Lavender Canyon in the Needles district.
It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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11-26-2007, 10:54 AM #14
We moved our Moab canyon trip to the weekend of Dec 1...
And I believe there are a lot of interesting canyons in the Moab area. It's just that most have not shown up in guidebooks or become popular yet... I expect that to change over the next couple of years.
For some stramge reason certain areas get skipped by the guys who are serious about finding new canyons and I believe that is the case with Moab in general. Not sure why it's been overlooked for so long... maybe because Moab is more of a party and ATV place and that makes it unpopular with most of the serious treehugger/canyoneer/forest fairy type crowd?
And hint number two: Many canyoneers would think nothing of hiking the Posion, Golden or Cliff Hanger 4x4 routes if it delivered the goods.
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11-26-2007, 11:30 AM #15Originally Posted by IceaxeIt's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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11-26-2007, 11:34 AM #16
Ok the serious tree hugger/canyoneer/forest fairy type crowd comment brought tears to my eyes. For hint #3 which one of the mention jeep trail would the canyoneerer have to hike up. With your last hint you could jeep or hike up cliff hanger and then drop down into Kane Creek over where the old killer kane jeep trail was or anywhere along kane creek.
Tried to hike from the top of killer kane to Cliff hanger back when we could go up that trail but couldn't find a way through. Thought it would be a great mtn bike ride up cliff hanger and down killer kane.
We dropped into the Corona Arch area one time off of Golden spike. But all of these canyoneering activites are pretty short. Desert Highlights are talking about quite along trip with multiple rappels and alot of vertical drop. As you stated I think there has to be alot of slots that haven't been located, nothing like zion but more like morning glory medeivl
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11-26-2007, 11:47 AM #17
I didn't say it was or wasn't one of the mentioned routes.... just saying you need to give some thought to hiking off some of the jeep routes.
One problem is I don't know which jeep route is which.... I'm not a hardcore 4x4 (or mountain bike) type guy.
Hey Mark, do you live in the Moab area or just visit?
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11-26-2007, 12:07 PM #18
If I was to venture a guess, I'd say the 2,000 feet is probably a bit exaggerated, and I'd also say this isn't a "full day" canyon. Guide services tend to take their time, especially if there is a lot of rappeling. I'd say Granary is probably a 5-6 hour canyon, with a lengthy car shuttle that rounds it out...
I'll also say that Potash road or Amassa Back area is your best bet. But really, you aren't going to get much more beta than that because no one on here has ever done it. Chances are Shane has the beta, but he isn't going to give it out for free. And he will probably wait to do it himself first. Right Shane?
As for slots in Moab, Matt at Desert Highlights has put in the most time finding these places, and most people respect the fact that he is guiding them for his livelihood, so they don't make it a point to find them or frequent them. If lots of people start using the guided routes, it is bad for everyone, generally speaking (IMO). Also, I think many would argue that the quality of "slot" or canyon around Moab is generally not as good as other areas.
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11-26-2007, 12:17 PM #19Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
YMMV
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11-26-2007, 12:23 PM #20Originally Posted by Iceaxe
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