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09-16-2007, 10:40 PM #1
National Public Lands Day, Saturday 9/29
Everyone is invited to attend a National Public Lands Day volunteer activity on Saturday the 29th at American Fork Canyon. Sponsored by Utah 4 Wheel Drive Association. Free t-shirts for all volunteers.
Details:
http://www.uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8665
http://www.u4wda.org/af
Out of curiosity, who else is planning on participating in NPLD projects? What other groups are sponsoring projects? With all the public land users here on this board, I'm sure many of you will be volunteering on the 29th. What projects will you participate in?
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09-16-2007 10:40 PM # ADS
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09-17-2007, 11:26 AM #2
Re: National Public Lands Day, Saturday 9/29
Originally Posted by scoutabout
Disclaimer: By "nothing" I mean I am doing stuff just not NPLD related, so don't try to guilt me into coming upThe man thong is wrong.
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09-17-2007, 11:57 AM #3
Without trying to start another war... Okay, maybe I am.
Does anyone else find it ironic that ATV users (ok, and a few bikes) are the main people on those trails out of Tibble Fork, and they are also the ones organizing a massive clean up project for their own trails? Sounds like an admission of guilt. Regardless, glad to see y'all getting out there to keep that area looking good.
As for picking up litter, I hope everyone does that when they are outside, regardless of whether it is Public Lands Day or not.
Flame on.
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09-17-2007, 01:30 PM #4Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
Directly out of Tibble Fork are only motorcycle/mountain bike trails. ATV and 4x4 trails are further up the north fork.
It seems that you have no understanding of what's going on up there. Have you been up there, or just assuming? The trash collection is all about the dispersed camping areas used by car-campers and hikers along the main road. The side trails of the canyon (devoid of campsites) are clean. These are the technical routes where ATV's and 4x4's travel for recreation.
If there was really such a concern about the environment (as many of you claim) wouldn't you come participate in such projects regardless of whether it was hikers, mining, or OHVs that left the trash?
Good to see how UUTAH folks feel about this. I thought it was a waste to encourage involvement in NPLD, but I thought I'd give it a try.
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09-17-2007, 02:22 PM #5Originally Posted by scoutabout
Originally Posted by scoutabout
Originally Posted by scoutabout
I also like to wander around there after work to see if I can photograph the moose that are often out and about. But I probably don't know the area as intimately as you do, especially the North Fork area northeast of the reservoir. I spend my time in wilderness areas approaching Box Elder to the west and the trailhead out of Silver Lakes Flat reservoir to the north.
I've only driven up part of the N. Fork past the reservoir once so far this year, when I went to backpack up to Silver Glance Lake in June. Didn't look too bad, from what I saw, just packed with people. I assume that's typical up there, after all it's great country with easy access. One of the reasons I frequent it too. I did think the reservoir was trashed pretty good though. I spent about an hour tossing a line in the water for fish, and about an hour walking around picking up trash. My bet is that is from the car campers who fish out of their car. (Not placing blame on the OHV crowd for that.)
As for the main trails outside of the bike trails I mentioned, you are correct, I don't know them well. I don't go up there much. Maybe I can come up with you sometime? I think you'd find me a pretty level-headed dude in person. I'd actually consider attending that weekend, but I have plans for a few days in Southern Utah already.
Originally Posted by scoutabout
Originally Posted by scoutabout
My only point was that the group who is organizing the cleanup is the group who uses the area the most, and therefore makes the largest impact. And then trying to get the press to come cover it so you can make a positive impression on the rest of the community. I just hope you mention to the press it was the OHV crowd that trashed it in the first place. (But then again, if that assumption is wrong, flame away. I can eat my crow if needs be.)
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09-17-2007, 02:34 PM #6Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
I just remember previous discussions where other UUTAH'ers would throw out all these claims that the OHV community doesn't do anything to self-police, regulate, educate, or protect the environment. Many mentioned that they wanted to be involved in service projects like this. I post everytime we do one. Have yet to see a UUTAH person at any of these projects though.
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09-17-2007, 02:48 PM #7Originally Posted by scoutabout
I think part of the wildlife myth that we forget is that these animals have lost a lot of prime land in the area (namely, the Suncrest ridge that the Elk used to use to get to winter feeding grounds) and are now more habituated to seeing humans and mechanized travel, and thus less inclined to run away. I do find the elk very difficult to find up there, though. Moose are easy to find though.
Originally Posted by scoutabout
Originally Posted by scoutabout
Originally Posted by scoutabout
Originally Posted by scoutabout
Speaking of, why haven't you come on one of our canyoneering trips yet?
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09-17-2007, 03:08 PM #8Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
http://www.publiclandsday.org/involved/utah.htm
Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
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09-17-2007, 03:17 PM #9
These kind of organized cleanups are great - regardless of who organized it. It raises public awareness to a real problem and offers a solution that ANYONE can participate in. I've seen all walks of life getting involved in these cleanups and only good usually comes from it....everyone starts to communicate....amazing what that will do!
...BTW, a little 'service' never hurt anyone
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09-17-2007, 03:20 PM #10
Checked out the link, and there is lots of good stuff on there. I hadn't realized the scope and size of the day/event. Not just a 4WD group cleanup, this covers a lot of ground in Utah. Nice find, thanks for posting.
http://www.publiclandsday.org/involved/utah.htm
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09-17-2007, 03:27 PM #11Originally Posted by scoutaboutThe man thong is wrong.
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09-19-2007, 11:45 AM #12
Anyone else doing anything for NPLD?
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09-20-2007, 01:14 PM #13
Of the over 6000 registered users on this site (presumably most are public land users) no one else is doing anything for National Public Lands Day? That's a real surprise. I thought for sure that Rev Coyote would have a nail seeding project planned or something.
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09-20-2007, 01:18 PM #14Originally Posted by scoutaboutThe man thong is wrong.
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09-20-2007, 03:28 PM #15Originally Posted by scoutabout
Perhaps it should have a higher profile... I'm impressed by your zeal in promoting it on the board here, and hope that some members will look into getting involved with organized activities.
Maybe I'll send the Rev a box of roofing nails...
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09-20-2007, 03:58 PM #16Originally Posted by Cirrus2000
I just thought it was interesting that there are some on this board who are always trying to paint an inaccurate picture regarding the OHV community and their involvement in volunteer projects. Yet, the OHV groups are the only user groups organizing their own projects for NPLD while all other projects are organized by the land managers themselves. I was hoping that this factual information would help break some of the stereotypes that are often promoted on this board (and others).
Regardless, it is a great way to "give back" to the lands we enjoy all year (for all user groups), and anyone is welcome to join our group project in AF Canyon. Someday, I'd love to see a hiking group, a mountain biking group, an equestrian group, and an OHV group all get together for a group project in AF Canyon since it's an area that all of these groups use and enjoy.
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09-30-2007, 04:01 PM #17
Full report of the AF project here:
http://www.uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=82428#82428
Looking forward to hearing about other NPLD activities over the weekend.
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09-30-2007, 04:43 PM #18Originally Posted by scoutabout
Cool project, methinks. (Easy for me to make the suggestion without taking up the project, living elsewhere, huh?)
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09-30-2007, 05:42 PM #19
I challenge UUTAH to organize a project next year. With all the public land users here on this forum, I'm surprised that no one else here participated in any NPLD projects.
When it comes to preserving and protecting our public lands, being a responsible user just isn't enough. No matter what your favorite form of public land recreation involves, your volunteer efforts are needed!
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09-30-2007, 05:48 PM #20
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