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    Child bride testifies against polygamist 'prophet'



    ST. GEORGE, Utah (AP) -- A former follower of a polygamous sect leader claims she was acting to preserve her eternal salvation when she obeyed his command and married her cousin at age 14.

    Now 21, the woman was married in a 2001 religious ceremony to her 19-year-old cousin, then followed the counsel of Warren Jeffs to submit to her husband "mind, body and soul."

    Jeffs, 51, leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, went on trial Thursday on two counts of rape as an accomplice for using his church authority to coerce the marriage.

    The bride was the first witness in the trial and was expected to return to the stand Friday.

    On Thursday, she testified that Jeffs has long been an authority figure in her life. In 2001, he was a high-ranking church counselor and had been the girl's teacher and principal at an FLDS-run school, teaching children principles of the faith.

    In 2002, Jeffs became church president, or "prophet," succeeding his father. Video Watch the case against Warren Jeffs

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    Child bride says she never cried 'rape'

    ST. GEORGE, Utah (AP) -- A young woman who said she was forced to enter an arranged marriage at age 14 testified Monday that she never complained to her mother or sisters that she was being raped.

    "I never told anyone," the woman, now 21, said during cross-examination at the trial of polygamous-sect leader Warren Jeffs.

    Jeffs, president of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, is charged with two counts of rape as an accomplice.

    Prosecutors say he used his influence to push the girl into a ceremonial marriage with a 19-year-old cousin in 2001 and force her to have sex.

    Last week the woman testified that she sobbed through the wedding and had to be coaxed by Jeffs and her mother when asked to say "I do." She hid in a bathroom after the ceremony at a Nevada motel.

    Defense attorney Tara Isaacson challenged her earlier testimony and her statements to police in 2006.

    The woman said Jeffs never specifically spoke to her about having sex because the FLDS faithful didn't use that word. She acknowledged her mother had a "great deal of influence" on her to go ahead with the marriage ceremony.

    The woman has been the only witness through nearly three days of trial. She recalled last week how she avoided sex for weeks but could no longer deny her husband when he said it was "time for you to be a wife and do your duty."

    Wanting to die, she said she subsequently swallowed two bottles of over-the-counter pain reliever.

    "He was my priesthood head and husband. He was my patriarch," she said of her cousin. "And I was risking my spiritual salvation by questioning my husband and not becoming one with him."

    The woman said she sought an FLDS divorce, known as a release, from Jeffs but was denied.

    She finally left her three-year marriage and the FLDS church in 2004 after becoming pregnant with another man's child. CNN and The Associated Press generally do not name people alleging sexual abuse.

    Jeffs, 51, has been president of the FLDS church since 2002. Followers see him as a prophet who communicates with God and holds dominion over their salvation. Ex-church members say he reigns with an iron fist, demanding perfect obedience from followers. Follow the rise of the 'Prophet'

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    Rape is so hard to prove in a court of law. Especially where there are no signs of physical violence, and the testimony is all "my word against his."

    I don't think this is gonna go anywhere -- unless the law is looking to make an example of Jeffs.

    I'd like to hear Scott's take on this.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    19 y/o men should not be screwing 14 y/o girls..... thats my take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe
    19 y/o men should not be screwing 14 y/o girls..... thats my take.
    True, and I agree, but what's Utah's AOC (age of consent)? Even then, it's still her word against his.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe
    19 y/o men should not be screwing 14 y/o girls..... thats my take.
    True, and I agree, but what's Utah's AOC (age of consent)? Even then, it's still her word against his.
    except for the fact that you have this whole religious thang ... the strong expectations and the endless use of strong rhetoric she was subject to her entire life. some wouldn't have a problem calling it brainwashing.

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    Polygamous leader guilty of being accomplice to rape of unwilling teen bride
    By Brooke Adams
    The Salt Lake Tribune


    ST. GEORGE - Eight jurors who found polygamous sect leader Warren S. Jeffs guilty on two felony charges Tuesday said the verdict came down to two things: the teen bride's age and the law.

    "We all had the opinion he was pretty much her only ticket for getting out of the marriage," said Gerald Munk, 36, a St. George City maintenance worker.

    Added Ben Coulter, 26: "He ultimately held all the keys to say, 'You don't have to be in this marriage and there won't be any consequences.' "

    Jeffs stood with his attorneys as the verdict was read; he later sat, his face as impassive as it had been throughout the six-day trial, blinking hard.

    Asked by 5th District Judge James L. Shumate if he wanted to have a presentencing report, Jeffs said: "I will do what my lawyers recommend."

    The two charges of rape as an accomplice are punishable by five years to life in prison. Shumate set a sentencing date of Nov. 20. Jeffs will remain incarcerated at the Purgatory Correctional Facility in Hurricane until he is sentenced.

    Jeffs' defense team hurried from the courthouse after the verdict. "Of course I'm disappointed," attorney Walter F. Bugden said as he moved through a mob of reporters.

    Jeffs, 51, is the leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which has about 6,000 members in the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz. Other sect members are in Texas, Colorado, Nevada, South Dakota and British Columbia.

    He has led the group since September 2002, when he succeeded his late father, Rulon T. Jeffs. The sect believes marriages are arranged by God through the prophet and that sex should occur only for procreation.

    Fifteen members of Jeffs' faith left the courthouse after the verdict as they had for weeks: Silently slipping away while chased by cameras.

    The rape charges were based on a marriage Jeffs conducted in 2001 between Elissa Wall, then 14, and Allen Steed, her 19-year-old cousin.

    Jurors who spoke to media in the courtroom after the verdict said they found Wall more credible than Steed - particularly regarding when and how their first sexual encounter occurred.

    The jurors also said they found the prosecution's second closing argument persuasive. Still, three jurors entered deliberations ready to vote not guilty.

    They eventually joined the others in reachinga "guilty decision" on the first count before splitting again on the second one. It was a heated debate, they said.

    "There were a couple times I thought fists were going to be thrown," said Diedre Shaw, 32, a St. George homemaker. A marker was tossed across the room at one point.

    Shaw, who was initially in the "not guilty" camp, said the second count was difficult for her because of its nonspecific time frame and the fact Wall admitted she "sugared up" her relationship by agreeing to sexual intimacy during this period.

    Prosecutors said the first count of rape occurred between the April 23, 2001, marriage and May 12, 2001. They listed the second count as occurring between May 13, 2001, and Sept. 30, 2003.

    The panel left the courthouse Monday night - after 13 hours of deliberations over two days - still deadlocked, they said.

    Juror Andrea Harold was excused Tuesday morning after Shaw raised questions about an answer she gave on her jury questionnaire. Harold was replaced by alternate Rachel Karimi, and deliberations continued.

    The jurors said Karimi, a 28-year-old homemaker, "walked into a fight." She provided a "fresh look," they said, which helped the panel reach consensus about three hours later. The verdict was reached shortly after 1 p.m. Tuesday.

    "We started at the beginning and listened to her feelings about the case," said David Finch, a 64-year-old Ivins retiree who served as jury foreman. "She brought up points we hadn't thought about."


    Washington County Attorney Brock Belnap had argued Jeffs, then-first counselor in the faith, was the "mouthpiece of God" and had ignored Wall's objections to the marriage.

    Later, when she asked to be freed from the marriage and said her husband was "doing things to me I don't understand,'' Jeffs sent her back to him. He threatened loss of heavenly salvation as a consequence for disobedience, Belnap said.

    "He placed Elissa Wall in a situation where she felt she had no choice," he said.

    After the verdict, jurors referred repeatedly to Jeffs as the prophet - a post actually held by his father at the time - who assigned marriages and could undo them.

    "When things went wrong, he wasn't there to help her," said Gerald "Lynn" Maxwell, 40, a draftsman who lives in La Verkin.

    Wall's civil lawsuit, which the defense had described as a motive for bringing the rape allegation, was easily set aside by the jury. So was the lack of a charge against Steed or involvement of others in Wall's marriage.

    "I was leaning more toward blaming Allen," said Shaw, adding that other jurors kept reminding her he wasn't on trial.

    It was the laws that Jeffs had broken that mattered, Maxwell said. And the jury instructions, which they read "over and over," focused them on those laws.

    Jeffs' attorneys - Bugden and Tara Isaacson of Salt Lake City and Richard Wright of Las Vegas - characterized the case as a political campaign against an unpopular religion with their client as a scapegoat.

    "Over time, the story evolved from a bad marriage to a story of rape," Bugden said, adding that it changed only after Wall contacted a civil attorney. He argued the faith focuses on faith, not force.

    And while Wall's stepfather, mother and sisters encouraged her marriage, only Jeffs had been singled out for blame, he said.

    "The idea that this is all laid at the feet of Warren Jeffs is simply not fair," Bugden said in his closing statement. "I don't care what the religion is, no one thought this was going to lead to rape.

    ''They thought in time they were going to rise in love."

    But jurors rejected the claim that the case was about religious persecution. "I don't think it was about that but I think it played a part in it," said juror Heather Newkirk, 32, a massage therapist.

    She later said serving as a juror in the case was "very interesting" and made her "appreciate her husband a lot. . . . I'm just happy to have the freedoms and choices that I do.'

    The jury found Wall's sister, Rebecca Musser, a decisive witness. "Rebecca Musser, that woman made eye contact and she shot fire," Newkirk said.


    One expert said he was "mildly surprised" by the outcome. Daniel Medwed, a University of Utah law professor, said he did not think the charges were a perfect fit with the facts of the case.

    "Feeling he had done something wrong is a little bit of a stretch to saying he was an accomplice to rape," Medwed said.

    He said Jeffs is likely in for a long stay in prison and would be "quite surprised if Jeffs ever got out."

    After the verdict, Belnap, who was assisted in the case by lead prosecutor Ryan Shaum and Craig Barlow, an assistant attorney general, thanked the jury for carefully considering the evidence.

    He described Wall's courage in coming forward as a "highlight of his entire life," calling her a ''pioneer.'' Wall, he said, "withstood attacks on her credibility and reputation with honor and dignity."

    Belnap hinted there may be other prosecutions in the future.

    Arizona and federal authorities, who have cases pending against Jeffs, will likely wait to see what sentence Shumate hands down before deciding how to handle their prosecutions.

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    Polygamous leader guilty of being accomplice to rape of unwilling teen bride
    By Brooke Adams
    The Salt Lake Tribune


    ST. GEORGE - Eight jurors who found polygamous sect leader Warren S. Jeffs guilty on two felony charges Tuesday said the verdict came down to two things: the teen bride's age and the law.

    "We all had the opinion he was pretty much her only ticket for getting out of the marriage," said Gerald Munk, 36, a St. George City maintenance worker.

    Added Ben Coulter, 26: "He ultimately held all the keys to say, 'You don't have to be in this marriage and there won't be any consequences.' "

    Jeffs stood with his attorneys as the verdict was read; he later sat, his face as impassive as it had been throughout the six-day trial, blinking hard.

    Asked by 5th District Judge James L. Shumate if he wanted to have a presentencing report, Jeffs said: "I will do what my lawyers recommend."

    The two charges of rape as an accomplice are punishable by five years to life in prison. Shumate set a sentencing date of Nov. 20. Jeffs will remain incarcerated at the Purgatory Correctional Facility in Hurricane until he is sentenced.

    Jeffs' defense team hurried from the courthouse after the verdict. "Of course I'm disappointed," attorney Walter F. Bugden said as he moved through a mob of reporters.

    Jeffs, 51, is the leader of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which has about 6,000 members in the twin towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz. Other sect members are in Texas, Colorado, Nevada, South Dakota and British Columbia.

    He has led the group since September 2002, when he succeeded his late father, Rulon T. Jeffs. The sect believes marriages are arranged by God through the prophet and that sex should occur only for procreation.

    Fifteen members of Jeffs' faith left the courthouse after the verdict as they had for weeks: Silently slipping away while chased by cameras.

    The rape charges were based on a marriage Jeffs conducted in 2001 between Elissa Wall, then 14, and Allen Steed, her 19-year-old cousin.

    Jurors who spoke to media in the courtroom after the verdict said they found Wall more credible than Steed - particularly regarding when and how their first sexual encounter occurred.

    The jurors also said they found the prosecution's second closing argument persuasive. Still, three jurors entered deliberations ready to vote not guilty.

    They eventually joined the others in reachinga "guilty decision" on the first count before splitting again on the second one. It was a heated debate, they said.

    "There were a couple times I thought fists were going to be thrown," said Diedre Shaw, 32, a St. George homemaker. A marker was tossed across the room at one point.

    Shaw, who was initially in the "not guilty" camp, said the second count was difficult for her because of its nonspecific time frame and the fact Wall admitted she "sugared up" her relationship by agreeing to sexual intimacy during this period.

    Prosecutors said the first count of rape occurred between the April 23, 2001, marriage and May 12, 2001. They listed the second count as occurring between May 13, 2001, and Sept. 30, 2003.

    The panel left the courthouse Monday night - after 13 hours of deliberations over two days - still deadlocked, they said.

    Juror Andrea Harold was excused Tuesday morning after Shaw raised questions about an answer she gave on her jury questionnaire. Harold was replaced by alternate Rachel Karimi, and deliberations continued.

    The jurors said Karimi, a 28-year-old homemaker, "walked into a fight." She provided a "fresh look," they said, which helped the panel reach consensus about three hours later. The verdict was reached shortly after 1 p.m. Tuesday.

    "We started at the beginning and listened to her feelings about the case," said David Finch, a 64-year-old Ivins retiree who served as jury foreman. "She brought up points we hadn't thought about."


    Washington County Attorney Brock Belnap had argued Jeffs, then-first counselor in the faith, was the "mouthpiece of God" and had ignored Wall's objections to the marriage.

    Later, when she asked to be freed from the marriage and said her husband was "doing things to me I don't understand,'' Jeffs sent her back to him. He threatened loss of heavenly salvation as a consequence for disobedience, Belnap said.

    "He placed Elissa Wall in a situation where she felt she had no choice," he said.

    After the verdict, jurors referred repeatedly to Jeffs as the prophet - a post actually held by his father at the time - who assigned marriages and could undo them.

    "When things went wrong, he wasn't there to help her," said Gerald "Lynn" Maxwell, 40, a draftsman who lives in La Verkin.

    Wall's civil lawsuit, which the defense had described as a motive for bringing the rape allegation, was easily set aside by the jury. So was the lack of a charge against Steed or involvement of others in Wall's marriage.

    "I was leaning more toward blaming Allen," said Shaw, adding that other jurors kept reminding her he wasn't on trial.

    It was the laws that Jeffs had broken that mattered, Maxwell said. And the jury instructions, which they read "over and over," focused them on those laws.

    Jeffs' attorneys - Bugden and Tara Isaacson of Salt Lake City and Richard Wright of Las Vegas - characterized the case as a political campaign against an unpopular religion with their client as a scapegoat.

    "Over time, the story evolved from a bad marriage to a story of rape," Bugden said, adding that it changed only after Wall contacted a civil attorney. He argued the faith focuses on faith, not force.

    And while Wall's stepfather, mother and sisters encouraged her marriage, only Jeffs had been singled out for blame, he said.

    "The idea that this is all laid at the feet of Warren Jeffs is simply not fair," Bugden said in his closing statement. "I don't care what the religion is, no one thought this was going to lead to rape.

    ''They thought in time they were going to rise in love."

    But jurors rejected the claim that the case was about religious persecution. "I don't think it was about that but I think it played a part in it," said juror Heather Newkirk, 32, a massage therapist.

    She later said serving as a juror in the case was "very interesting" and made her "appreciate her husband a lot. . . . I'm just happy to have the freedoms and choices that I do.'

    The jury found Wall's sister, Rebecca Musser, a decisive witness. "Rebecca Musser, that woman made eye contact and she shot fire," Newkirk said.


    One expert said he was "mildly surprised" by the outcome. Daniel Medwed, a University of Utah law professor, said he did not think the charges were a perfect fit with the facts of the case.

    "Feeling he had done something wrong is a little bit of a stretch to saying he was an accomplice to rape," Medwed said.

    He said Jeffs is likely in for a long stay in prison and would be "quite surprised if Jeffs ever got out."

    After the verdict, Belnap, who was assisted in the case by lead prosecutor Ryan Shaum and Craig Barlow, an assistant attorney general, thanked the jury for carefully considering the evidence.

    He described Wall's courage in coming forward as a "highlight of his entire life," calling her a ''pioneer.'' Wall, he said, "withstood attacks on her credibility and reputation with honor and dignity."

    Belnap hinted there may be other prosecutions in the future.

    Arizona and federal authorities, who have cases pending against Jeffs, will likely wait to see what sentence Shumate hands down before deciding how to handle their prosecutions.

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    BOOYA!! That's what you get!! HAHA!!
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    I'm thinkin' Warren is about to get a whole new understanding of rape.

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    So.. when does the husband who preformed the rape go on trial? What about the the friends and family that arranged the marriage? Do they have a trial date set yet?
    I think they went after the wrong person here.

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    The husband was charged today:

    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=1872505

    They were probably waiting to see if they could successfully convict Jeffs before going after the husband. It sounds like the woman's mother was also an accomplice in the marriage arrangement, I wonder if she'll ever see charges against her.

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    The whole thing is puzzling. I really don't get what Jeff's did here. Smells like a witch hunt to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpeyBiggs
    The whole thing is puzzling. I really don't get what Jeff's did here. Smells like a witch hunt to me.
    Go look up 'statutory rape' in the dictionary.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    After Steed took the stand, Washington County investigators felt they had what they needed to make that charge.
    When Steed took the stand I thought if this guy doesn't already have a deal worked out he's a dumbass.....

    I can't believe he was that stupid. I figured he must have been granted immunity or something because I didn't think anyone was dumb enough to get up on the stand and tell everyone "Yeah, I was screwing the little 14 y/o girl".

    Just curious..... does anyone know if this was a legal wedding? Or was this like most plig weddings where they jump over the broom stick and Uncle Warren says they are married....


  19. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe
    does anyone know if this was a legal wedding? Or was this like most plig weddings where they jump over the broom stick and Uncle Warren says they are married....
    I think that was his first wife so could be legal, but can you legally get married in Utah at 14?
    The man thong is wrong.

  20. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe
    does anyone know if this was a legal wedding? Or was this like most plig weddings where they jump over the broom stick and Uncle Warren says they are married....
    I think that was his first wife so could be legal, but can you legally get married in Utah at 14?
    The legal AOC (Age of Consent) in Utah is 16 for girls, and 18 for guys. The ONLY state in the U.S. where a female may marry at the age of 14 is South Carolina...(which should explain a lot )
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

  21. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin
    Go look up 'statutory rape' in the dictionary.
    Jeff's didn't rape anyone. The husband did.

    Is Jeffs cazy? Probably. Is he guilty of being an "accomplice to rape?" Not in my eyes.

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