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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by waltny
    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Coyote

    Dominos Pizza: Funding mechanism for an insane religious cult.
    I got to ask.... which one would this be?
    Here's an article I found, gives a good quick-and-dirty on thse asshats...

    Conservative Businessman to Create New Community

    Domino's Pizza Founder Converts Florida Wilderness to 'Ave Maria,' an 11,000-Home Community

    By MARTIN BASHIR and DAN MORRIS
    Aug. 7, 2007 —


    A one-time wilderness in Florida is being transformed into the Promised Land. A buccaneering businessman with strong Catholic values wants to build a new community from scratch.

    Tom Monaghan, founder of the worldwide Domino's Pizza chain, is sinking his billion-dollar fortune into a new town called Ave Maria, a joint venture with a local developer. It will number 11,000 new homes and, unsurprisingly for a man who opposes abortion, contraception and homosexuality, at the summit of this planned community is not a golf course but a church.

    "It'll seat about 1,100 people, including the choir loft," Monaghan said of the church, "and there'll be seating for about 25 priests that can celebrate a mass."

    Across the road from the church is Monaghan's other singular contribution to the development, a new Catholic university that will house over 5,000 students.

    "We need a new kind of Catholic school with an emphasis on combining excellence in spiritual aspect and also excellence in education," he said.


    From Poverty to Priesthood

    So what prompted this 70-year-old entrepreneur to pursue his dream of building a kind of Catholic heaven on 5,000 acres of earth?

    It may be because Tom Monaghan has been searching for a community like Ave Maria for most of his life. He was born in March 1937 into a poor family of unskilled workers -- his mother a domestic servant, his father (and hero) a truck driver.

    "I was so poor, and I was always conscious of what other kids had," he said. "I had to scrape the manure off my shoes when I went to school and I had to keep my feet on the floor so you couldn't see the soles of my shoes."

    By 10th grade, Monaghan had decided to join the priesthood and was accepted into seminary, but he lasted less than a year.

    "[The] rector said I didn't have a vocation& so he said, 'Tom, when you're packing your bags for Easter, pack them for good.' And I cried," Monaghan recalled. "I was crushed 'cause I thought I was more interested in being a priest than almost every kid in that seminary."


    Delivering Colossal Growth

    Monaghan decided to take his future into his own hands. An opportunity arose to buy a pizza business for $500 in Ypsilanti, Mich., close to where he grew up.

    After buying that first store, Monaghan soon discovered a gaping hole in the pizza business of the 1960s -- a gap that he was eager to fill.

    "I was the first one to focus on delivery," he said. "There were places that delivered but they did it because they had to. I was the first person to do it because I wanted to. I was excited about the idea of delivery. I saw the potential of the convenience of it for people, and I thought it could be built into a big business."

    He wasn't wrong. From 1960 to 1980, Monaghan opened 300 Domino's Pizza delivery stores.

    "[In] 1980 we took off like a rocket and went from 300 to 5,000 stores in 10 years," he said. "It was the fastest growth in the history of the restaurant industry."

    The boy who once had holes in his socks could now afford diamonds on the soles of his shoes. And he started spending serious money. At one time, he even owned eight planes.

    Rediscovering His Faith

    The spending spree lasted six years, until 1989, when one quiet evening, Monaghan read "Mere Christianity" by the British scholar C.S. Lewis and had a sudden revelation.

    "This chapter in the book basically said I was just trying to impress people, and so I couldn't sleep that night," he said.

    "[I] was taught that pride is the greatest of all sins, it's the source of all other sins& and when I read that I said, 'My gosh, that's the greatest of all sins and I'm the greatest sinner in the world."

    Almost immediately, Monaghan sold his planes and his cars and created a foundation, donating millions of dollars to Catholic causes. He decided to focus on education, believing that most Catholic schools had also wandered from the faith. In 1998, Monaghan sold Domino's Pizza for an estimated $1 billion. Two years later he opened the Ave Maria College near Ann Arbor, Mich. The school quickly grew, but local government would not allow any further expansion. So he began scouting for other locations. After looking at various potential sites, he settled on a former swampland in Florida, entering into a deal with a local developer.


    Critics Question Monaghan's Motives

    Not everyone is delighted at the prospect of a town so avowedly Catholic, especially those concerned with civil liberties. Monaghan, who believes that abortion should be outlawed and that contraception should not be available, is often criticized for his fundamental Christian beliefs.

    "What makes me so unique?" he asked.

    Critics call Monaghan's views into question because few people have the resources and ability to build a university that influences the social situation in a specific direction.

    "That's where the rub is. I'm dangerous," said Monaghan.

    Whether the town represents a single religious denomination or not, there was no shortage of interest at a recent "open day." And Monaghan seems genuinely at peace with himself, attending Mass every day, preparing to live in the community of his dreams.

    "I think I'm very happy," he said. "And when the media gets on me I just say Hail Mary for whoever wrote the article and it goes away just like that."
    "The eagle never lost so much time as when he consented to learn of the crow."

    -- Wm Blake

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    I don't have a source, but I seem to have it in my brain that French labor laws typically limit work to 30 hours per week, with 4, maybe 5, weeks a year as paid vacation leave.

    Personally, I would LOOOOOOOVE that.

    /me hops in his Citroën, puts a beret on his head, and speeds off

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris247
    I don't have a source, but I seem to have it in my brain that French labor laws typically limit work to 30 hours per week, with 4, maybe 5, weeks a year as paid vacation leave.

    Personally, I would LOOOOOOOVE that.
    Me too!!!
    My Safety is DeathCricket's Responsibility.

  5. #44
    I'm still thankful that Frenchman Francois Compte De Grasse blocked the Chesapeake Bay entrance in 1781, thus helping Washington's men defeat that bastard Cornwallis at Yorktown. DeGrasse kept the British fleet from saving the day for Cornwallis. Defeat was quickly handed those redcoat swine, Washington accepted surrender. The rest is history.

    Thanks, France!
    "The eagle never lost so much time as when he consented to learn of the crow."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Coyote
    Quote Originally Posted by moabfool
    I boycott Patagonia for initially supporting Dean Potthead in his climb of Delicate arch.
    That's a GOOD one!
    i continue to support Patagonia for the good work that they do and for making the right decision in the end concerning Dean Potter and Delicate ARch. Basically, they waited until the facts were in before making a decision. Sounds like logic and reason over hysteria - and I support that.

    Since we're on a provincial level here, I will never knowingly support Michaal Fatali for his hypocrisy regarding damage caused by him in the Delicate Arch Area.

    "God's own light"
    "I prefer natural light"

    my ass

    http://www.fatali.com/artist/NaturesLight.php

    ptui!

    I love the name of his new gallery in Springdale: "Sacred Earth"

    How about "Scarred Earth"?

    I also "boycott" the damaging simul-rap tradition at Morning Glory Arch. Buncha junior Dean Potters out there.

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    FOR SALE: French Assault Rifle, never fired, only dropped once.


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    Hank;

    Off topic, but what the heck is your avatar? I've strained my eyes, and it still looks like a giant bug smoking a cigarette.
    "The eagle never lost so much time as when he consented to learn of the crow."

    -- Wm Blake

  9. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon
    - Sorry you work so much...I'm currently on vacation. :)
    WTF? You're spending your vacation time posting here? Go outside, will ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Coyote
    Hank;

    Off topic, but what the heck is your avatar? I've strained my eyes, and it still looks like a giant bug smoking a cigarette.
    Why, it's Nemesis the Warlock - thanks for axin'.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_the_Warlock

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris247
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon
    - Sorry you work so much...I'm currently on vacation. :)
    WTF? You're spending your vacation time posting here? Go outside, will ya?
    Just got back from Zion! Pine Creek and Checkerboard Mesa.

    Perched on the rim of CB mesa, looking West, watching a thunderstorm drench the park and break up in the Mohave desert to the south - priceless! Heading back down tomorrow or Thursday for another 10-day tour. Prayin' for storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon in a hard to read color
    THEN you and every other American* are an ignorant plebe.

    *other than myself, Rev. Coyote, Big Carpet, Sombeech, Jumar, Abba, Loah, Scott Card, Cirrus, and a few others whose names escape me right now.
    You forgot to write my name on this list Hank. I mean how could I be an ignorant plebe and Somebeech not be?


    James "Freedom Fries" Wads

    P.S. Love ya 'beech! Please don't delete my membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe
    FOR SALE: French Assault Rifle, never fired, only dropped once.
    Shame you'll never visit France - great people, blasto canyons, yummy food, beautiful women...and they really know how to race cars through city streets! You'd eat it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon
    France - great people, blasto canyons, yummy food, beautiful women...
    And don't forget..... they can hold their arms up in the air for a really really really long time.....



    Just messin with ya Hank...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin
    Welllll, that was a joke, but I forgot that you don't have a sense of humor, so go back to your mud-slinging.
    No, you forgot I have a good sense of humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon
    France - great people, blasto canyons, yummy food, beautiful women...
    And don't forget..... they can hold their arms up in the air for a really really really long time.....

    Just messin with ya Hank...
    I know. I just wish you'd ditch the stripper wife n' kids and take off to France with me like you promised back in May.

  17. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon
    Since we're on a provincial level here, I will never knowingly support Michaal Fatali for his hypocrisy regarding damage caused by him in the Delicate Arch Area.

    "God's own light"
    "I prefer natural light"

    my ass

    http://www.fatali.com/artist/NaturesLight.php

    ptui!

    I love the name of his new gallery in Springdale: "Sacred Earth"

    How about "Scarred Earth"?

    I also "boycott" the damaging simul-rap tradition at Morning Glory Arch. Buncha junior Dean Potters out there.
    Check out the name of this picture and try to tell me he isn't being a pervert.
    http://www.fatali.com/gallery/notes.php?id=77&gid=5&
    The man thong is wrong.

  18. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Coyote
    Dominos Pizza: Funding mechanism for an insane religious cult.
    Didn't the crazy owner sell Dominos and used the money for the cult village? If so then Dominos is a go! I love the deep dish, but I haven't had dominoes for about 3 years.
    The man thong is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon
    and take off to France with me like you promised back in May.
    No.... but if your going to be in town Saturday Night I'll take ya out the the Circle Burners (USAC Sprint Cars).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxx
    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Coyote
    Dominos Pizza: Funding mechanism for an insane religious cult.
    Didn't the crazy owner sell Dominos and used the money for the cult village? If so then Dominos is a go! I love the deep dish, but I haven't had dominoes for about 3 years.
    I hope that's true -- see if you can find an article or something (I'm quite busy). Their pie is pretty good, and the guy runs the Domino's in Moab is a really good feller.
    "The eagle never lost so much time as when he consented to learn of the crow."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon
    and take off to France with me like you promised back in May.
    No.... but if your going to be in town Saturday Night I'll take ya out the the Circle Burners (USAC Sprint Cars).

    Hey hey! Dirt track! Now THAT'S fun stuff! One thing I'll say for Virginia is we have some awesome dirt action around. I like the bomber and charger divisions where the cars are low-budget and the drivers crazy.
    "The eagle never lost so much time as when he consented to learn of the crow."

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