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12-18-2006, 03:05 PM #21Originally Posted by stefan
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12-18-2006 03:05 PM # ADS
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12-18-2006, 03:17 PM #22
I was going to Post, but Stopped. I used to frequent a board that got total ruined by Political Bullshit. This site is too good to lose. Everyone has been pretty respectful, but that can change quickly and really screw up a great thing. I'll shut up now.
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12-18-2006, 03:30 PM #23Originally Posted by Udink
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12-18-2006, 03:39 PM #24
My problem with Zion National Park is that I get nailed 3 times to use something I already own.
1. I pay for the park with my taxes.
2. I pay again when I buy a National Parks Pass or Entrance Fee.
3. I get to pay a third time when I am forced to buy a backcountry permit.
That just blows..... and I also say it is discriminatory against the poor and against canyoneers. The poor because $25 bucks will keep some less fortunate families out. And canyoneers because no other user group (climbers, bird watchers, yada, yada) is forced to buy a permit.
We could also get into the lottery system the park uses to distribute permits being a form of gambling..... all forms of which are banned in the state of Utah...
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12-18-2006, 03:50 PM #25Originally Posted by stefan
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12-18-2006, 03:51 PM #26And canyoneers because no other user group (climbers, bird watchers, yada, yada) is forced to buy a permit.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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12-18-2006, 05:07 PM #27
I'll gladly pay the fee. The parks dont bring in enough money from taxes or otherwise to support their maintenance and the programs they provide. No money, perhaps no more parks. If those parks werent paid for and maintained for all I would imagine it wouldnt be long til the oil drillers, and developers moved in. $80 to do my part to help protect these treasured areas seems a small price to pay - shoot, that's the cost of two dinners out.
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference. ~ Frost
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12-18-2006, 08:56 PM #28
Let's maybe look at the other side of the coin..... how much money is spent each year by the National Parks Service collecting and administering fees? I'm guessing their is no way in hell that some of these collections pay for themselves. Maybe if some of the parks were not so busy spending money on fee collections and accounting services they would have more money available?
It would be interesting to see the cost of maintaining the Zion Backcountry permit system and employing rangers to man the systems during December and January and February against revenues generated.
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12-18-2006, 10:01 PM #29
I'm reading about the Parks pass fee increase. I scroll down to the bottom to see the thread turning to Iraq and 9/11.
[transition]I hope this new increase of the Nat'l Parks Pass fee will now INCLUDE the Fiery Furnace fee at Arches.[/transition]
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12-19-2006, 09:13 AM #30Originally Posted by Sombeech
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12-19-2006, 10:20 AM #31
This money must come from somewhere ...
http://nationalpriorities.org/index....per&Itemid=182
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12-19-2006, 01:06 PM #32Originally Posted by Summit42
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12-19-2006, 01:16 PM #33
Hey, can we get that scrolling dollar amount embedded on here?
Oh, and I'm really BUMMED that we couldn't pay for more scholarships with that money. Coming from somebody who paid EVERY DIME for college, I really, really, really don't empathize much for those who don't get their degree from lack of scholarships.
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12-19-2006, 01:55 PM #34
Well if you had of signed up for the Military and took your turn in the barrel your schooling would be paid for.
Join the military, travel to exotic locations, meet interesting people..... and shoot them....
Then go to college on Uncle Sam's dime
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12-19-2006, 01:58 PM #35
I didn't have the balls to join the military. I thought about it, but I had put my 2 years in somewhere else.
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12-19-2006, 02:43 PM #36
Go Team USA!!!
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12-19-2006, 02:49 PM #37
Hard to imagine you with short hair Beech. Did your MP let you slip by?
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12-19-2006, 03:20 PM #38Scott's going to love that one
My final post on the matter (on this thread at least)Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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12-19-2006, 04:08 PM #39Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
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12-19-2006, 08:51 PM #40Originally Posted by Reedus
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