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08-17-2006, 06:02 PM #1
Women......
Sigh.
I don't get it. For our anniversary, my wife wanted a romantic tropical vacation for January. So, I just booked us some plane tickets to fly to Quito so we can climb Antisana, Cotopaxi, and Chimborazo. Now I can't even get a kiss.
I don't get it. Ecuador is right on the equator and smack dab in the middle of the tropics. It doesn't get anymore tropical than that. What's the deal? From the photos I have of the mountains, it looks like they have romantic sunsets and it looks like fun. So what's the deal? Tropical vacation, romantic sunsets, exotic location; I mean what more could a women want?
Shane, is your wife training class still available?
Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-17-2006 06:02 PM # ADS
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08-17-2006, 06:54 PM #2
Very, very cool pics man. So these were from your last trip, or are they what you hope to see?
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08-17-2006, 08:31 PM #3
Nope, haven't been there yet, so these are other's photos. We're going in January. I was just kidding about my wife not wanting to go there, but she is teasing me about it. She actually said that as long as we go to the Galapogos, she'll climb the peaks.
Anyway, I haven't been to Ecuador yet, so it will be fun. The countries/places I have been to are marked in red:Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-17-2006, 08:42 PM #4
Scott that's awesome map, great idea to do that!
Where in Russia did you go?
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08-17-2006, 08:59 PM #5Where in Russia did you go?
Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-17-2006, 09:50 PM #6Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
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08-18-2006, 06:47 AM #7nowhere really in europe, what gives, too ordinary?
Here's a good example:
Looks like a nice mountain, right? Well, let's take a peek of the summit view:
Scenes like the above are very common. Most of the mountain areas in Europe are full of things like huts, trams, Via Ferrata's, etc. It's just a big tourist trap. That's fine by me, and I won't tell anyone else not to go there, but it's not something that I'm interested in (unless you count Iceland as a part of Europe). Maybe I'll go someday anyway.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-18-2006, 07:34 AM #8
yes, scott, i am well aware of this. there ARE places that don't, but many of the most spectacular places have been usurped .... shiiiiiit this [europe] is where mountain 'recreation' started .... chamonix, a model for the rest of europe and the world to follow. this is largely the reason i boycott snowbird. i guess my point was that while i can understand that you have chosen to spend MORE time elsewhere in the world where there are more wild places, you have completely shut mainland europe out. are you of the opinion that unless it's very wild, it's not worth seeing? not trying to be an ass or nothing, but it would seem to mean that you haven't been across EVERY continent ... europe, africa or antarctica. or am i missing something? but i am sure the final statement in your quote is most certainly true.
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08-18-2006, 07:42 AM #9
Ecuador is gorgeous!! I spent a few years down there. If your wife would appreciate a "typical" tropical vacation, with white sand beaches and turquoise blue water -- book a few nights at a hotel in Salinas. I spent a few months there - it's one of the most gorgeous tropical resorts I've ever seen. Check this link out:
http://mandatolpm.com/salinas_ecuador.htm
Also check out Riobamba - if the Tungurahua volcano isn't still active (it blew just a few days ago).
Don't bother visiting Guayaquil - it's dirty, overpopulated, and has a high crime rate (especially if you have white skin).
I'm totally jealous!!! I'd love to go back!!It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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08-18-2006, 09:12 AM #10
Hey that sounds wonderful! I don't know what wrong with your wife! My anniversary is in Jan too. However, we've never even been on a honeymoon yet.
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08-18-2006, 09:23 AM #11i guess my point was that while i can understand that you have chosen to spend MORE time elsewhere in the world where there are more wild places, you have completely shut mainland europe out.
are you of the opinion that unless it's very wild, it's not worth seeing?
Except for Antisana, the places we are going in Ecuador are developed by Andes standards. I still want to go, and I am taking my wife. Would I rather do something wilder like climb Ama Dablam or something? Certainly. But, I only have so much time, budget, and skill, and much of what I want to do isn't what I am able to do.
not trying to be an ass or nothing, but it would seem to mean that you haven't been across EVERY continent ... europe, africa or antarctica. or am i missing something?
My point was that Utah is one of the best places in the world and I still think this after visiting so many other places. I still keep coming back to Utah again and again.
PS, there is another reason why I haven't visited Europe much. Since adulthood, with the exception of the Russia trip, I have never been able to get time off in summer; only winter. That is an additional reason, as much of the Alps or Scandanavia would be beyond my abilities in winter at this time. I actually haven't visited Canada, for example, since I was a kid, but am from Everett Washington, not far from the border. We also went back several times as a teenager. I would love to go back, but Canada isn't appealing in winter. Canada is high on my list of places I really want to see more of, but I have been restricted to a winter scedule.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-18-2006, 10:16 AM #12
So, um, how do you afford all these trips? Even if you are backpacking and doing it cheap there, these flights have to cost a pretty penny? H and I are 32 and 30 and I can only save up for school tuition, plane tickets back home and the occasional new toy.
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08-18-2006, 10:28 AM #13So, um, how do you afford all these trips? Even if you are backpacking and doing it cheap there, these flights have to cost a pretty penny?
In summer however, time off was strictly prohibited. 80 hours a week was probably the average, though sometime is was as low as 60 and once I had 116. Spring and Fall were more normal hours.
The trade off were these long winter vacations and enough money saved from summer to do it.
Plane tickets aren't as expensive as you would think, if you have a flexible scedule. "Round the World" tickets cost us $1200-1300 on occasion. That's not much to go to several destinations. They give you a certain amount of stops. One ticket, for example, we went to Thailand, Taiwan, India, Nepal, and China all on the same trip. Total cost was $1200 for a plane ticket out of SLC to all of those places over a period of about two months.
Watch the airfare prices, and sometimes they drop. On this trip, for example, our plane tickets to Ecuador were $420 round trip out of Salt Lake City plus about $100 taxes. Not too bad, but the price jumped back up after only a week.
The only time our plane tickets were that expensive, was to Australia-New Zealand. It cost us $1710 total SLC to New Zealand to Australia and back to SLC. Winter is high season there.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-18-2006, 10:35 AM #14
i guess getting compesated for OT answers that! yeah a superlight costs $1400, i have been trying to buy one for 3 years. no dice! stupid college. (sarcasm here)
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08-18-2006, 11:02 AM #15
Hey Scott, I once booked my wife on a 5-day "cruise"...... about a week before we left I finally had to inform her it was a whitewater rafting trip down Cataract Canyon.
I took her a while to see the humor in it
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08-18-2006, 11:04 AM #16
a rafting trip sounds a hell of a lot more fun that some cruise.
looks like i need a sugar daddy, instead of being the sugar mama.
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08-18-2006, 02:43 PM #17Originally Posted by Shan
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08-19-2006, 10:01 AM #18Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
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crossing ... true, but choosing words and knowing how they might be interpreted are two different things.
your quote reads better now anyhow.
Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
well scott, seems that you won't be too hindered by your family as they like to do the same stuff as you. this is something that should NEVER be taken for granted.
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08-19-2006, 04:14 PM #19but what is most appealing to me varies quite a bit, usually the completely wild, but i also enjoy less wild places, especially if they are particularly scenic, such as the alps.
Maybe one day I'll go to the Alps, but it will probably be near the end of the list at this time.
were you born in utah? if so where?
i see. do you ski tour?
are you a good skier?
baffin island seems like it would be a great place to hit some day.
The place is also very expensive to get to. I also got hit with a huge pay cut ($27,000 per year cut!) in 2004, and the cost of our trips has been drastically reduced. Had some medical bills from the kids too. If I ever get the chance, Greenland and Baffin Island are high on the list.
Right now the top 5 of my list is as follows:
1. Muztag Ata
2. Antarctica
3. Ama Dablam
4. Puncak Jaya (if the political problems ever get solved).
5. Shisha Pangma
All those are pretty expensive or time consuming, but I would hope to get at least one in the upcoming years.
I was invited to join a trip to the first winter ascent of Muztag Ata a few years ago, but I decided I couldn't go since I wasn't sure that I would of been ready for those conditions, and because I wasn't sure if I could afford it. Actually, I wish I would have tried to go because now there doesn't seem to be a chance of anything like that coming up again.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-19-2006, 05:34 PM #20Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
were you born in utah? if so where?Originally Posted by Scott Patterson
Right now the top 5 of my list is as follows:
1. Muztag Ata
2. Antarctica
3. Ama Dablam
4. Puncak Jaya (if the political problems ever get solved).
5. Shisha Pangma
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