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Thread: UHP Commander charged with DUI
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06-29-2006, 02:47 PM #1
UHP Commander charged with DUI
Wow, what a pathetic loser!!! Here's the KSL link:
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=333629
Fred Swain, COMMANDER of the Utah Highway Patrol DUI squad -- yes, the DUI squad, has been charged with driving under the influence.
Originally Posted by KSL
Here are some crystal clear photos from KSL's site:
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06-29-2006 02:47 PM # ADS
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06-29-2006, 03:02 PM #2
Re: UHP Commander charged with DUI
Originally Posted by KSL
I've been down this road before... Unless some prosecutor wants to try and make a name this will just disappear. Evidence will be lost or tainted or witnesses will fail to appear, error found in the report, plea bargained down to open container, yada-yada.
Anyone want to place a bet?
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06-29-2006, 03:05 PM #3
Re: UHP Commander charged with DUI
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I should have added "UHP was actually the agency called out on the crash, but they turned the investigation over to Draper Police, a standard procedure when their own employee is involved." in my highlights of the article.
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06-29-2006, 03:30 PM #4
Re: UHP Commander charged with DUI
Originally Posted by Sombeech
Maybe they were trying to get the Commanders perspective on the story.I wish my lawn was EMO so it would cut itself.
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06-29-2006, 04:33 PM #5
Re: UHP Commander charged with DUI
Originally Posted by Sombeech
Watching the Draper police in action is kinda like watching a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
Posted by Iceaxe currently living in Draper
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06-29-2006, 06:11 PM #6
You know, this is actually kind of sad. This guy's career is effectively over. Even if the courts don't get him, P.O.S.T. (the police officer certification folks) will. One thing I have noticed with police, they are cannibalistic when one of their own does something bad. Unlike some who think this thing will be swept under the rug, I predict the opposite, particularly since it hit the news. This fellow is going down and going down hard.
Life is Good
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06-29-2006, 10:37 PM #7
We need to alert WindWalkers of this thread. The ole copper...
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06-30-2006, 07:02 AM #8It was unclear why Swain's accident and arrest did not come to light until Thursday, nearly a week after the fact. Asked why the UHP did not inform the news media of the incident, McCleve said, "My job is not to do your job."
The guy is now toast....
Still... I don't really feel sorry for him. He more then anyone should have known the damage a DUI can cause. I'm probably one of the few who feel the law is to strict for a first offense. I've seen several lives ruined and good jobs lost by a DUI.
Full SL Tribune Story
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_3997456
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06-30-2006, 07:49 AM #9
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As long as we're on public officials screwing up, don't forget about this guy.
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06-30-2006, 07:52 AM #10
Here's the thing with this @$$hole. He's the same dude that will tell somebody the most extreme situations when he has pulled them over. He'll tell them how somebody was under the influence and ran into a car and killed them and
These kind of guys are infamous for "telling you how it is" when they pull you over. Then, they'll act like they're the good guy by saying, "You know, I could actually take you to jail for speeding, but I won't." So then you want to take him out to dinner when he hands you a ticket for ONLY $80, because that's better than jail.
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06-30-2006, 07:55 AM #11Originally Posted by savanna3313
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06-30-2006, 08:34 AM #12The Riverton City Manager is accused of peeking over a tanning salon partition at a 16-year-old girl who was undressing in an adjacent booth.
I swear officer.... she said she was 18.
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06-30-2006, 09:47 AM #13
I've figured it out. I know why they can send Swain on a paid vacation. It's because of all the DUI's he's handed out! Then, they added his to the list, and altogether they raised enough revenue to send him on a Carribean Cruise.
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06-30-2006, 02:54 PM #14
And what's this part about he "may" lose his drivers licence?
I know several folks with DUI's and they ALL lost their licence. Also, the fine they pay to the state is small potatoes in the big picture. They better add anther zero to what the fish wrapper printed after you factor in insurance and lawyers and stuff.
Damn Lawyers -
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06-30-2006, 04:48 PM #15Originally Posted by Scott Card
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07-03-2006, 12:15 PM #16Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Originally Posted by davis-b-1Life is Good
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07-03-2006, 01:16 PM #17
Shouldn't it be like that judge who was stoned during court? They had to revoke all of the sentences he had given to drug dealers, because he himself was using drugs.
Although I believe DUI's should be even more harsh, considering the number of alcohol related deaths each year, I'm not saying all of those people should be released of their charges. I just want to know what those people think who were pulled over by Swain.
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07-04-2006, 10:48 AM #18
My cousin and my best friend were killed by a drunk driver. I've seen both sides.....
My biggest problem is the guy who has 2 or 3 DUI's and continues to drive drunk, not the guy who makes a once in a lifetime mistake.
My cousin was married with 2 little kids. The guy who killed my cousin had 5 DUI's, no licence and no insurance. The guy who killed my cousin was also married with two little kids. He did serve one year in jail but in the end everyone was a loser. Including you and I who ended up supporting both families on welfare.
As for losing the licence..... all the cases I know of were 10 to 15 years ago. I believe the law at the time was mandatory loss of licence. For a while you could get a work permit but I know that part was revoked at the time.
And YUP! a good lawyer does wonders..... just anther of the many injustices of our legal system. It's not really about if you are guilty or not, its if you can afford a good enough attorney..... now back to you O.J. for a golf report.
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07-06-2006, 06:43 AM #19
I am new to this forum but had to comment on this one. Lt Swain will never work as a cop again in the state of Utah. POST will make sure of that. The troopers are very strict on punishing their own who scew up. The previous comments make me wonder if you have a hard on for all law enforcement.
Most of them do a great job for little pay and when one screws up he needs to be punished. Lt Swain will be punished and the State of Utah will make sure of it.fourwheelerfanatic
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07-06-2006, 07:45 AM #20Originally Posted by wojo342
Originally Posted by wojo342
I've got respect for law enforcement, I even thought about doing it. But when I see arrogance displayed like this, it drives me absolutely insane.
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