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What I take away from this thread and my scouting experience:

1) BSA needs to clarify its position on these items. Reasonably smart people should not have ​to go back and forth, guess, and debate...

It's not a surprise that the first anchor required replacing. We skipped it when we did it this spring. The others were checked and replaced as needed. It was fun doing it in spring run-off,...

I agree. I have used this method to rappel in tight, jagged caves. It gets the rappel device up where I can see what's going on, reduces the abuse the device takes from the wall, and gives me a...

This is more of a general question related to the water trap, which may or may not have anything to do with this specific incident. I have not seen or used a water trap. Based on descriptions here,...

I just checked with one of the authors, Steve Holmes. He said to contact him directly at sholmes903@msn.com regarding the book.

Yes, it is by Pine and Ridge Canyons above North Ogden. If you want to know more about this and the dozens of other mines on the Willard Mountain, I would highly recommend Mike and Steve Holmes'...

My opinion on all this:

1) We would all be happier if we spent more time enjoying canyons and less time throwing mud on the Internet.

2) I may be in the minority here, but I am grateful to...

It looks like my secret is out. This is a great canyoneering route, close for those of us in northern Utah. Bootboy, you are correct - that is excess seat belt webbing. I put the webbing in on a...

Any air movement at the mouth? Did you try dropping rocks and listening for bounces? I'd love to explore a new cave while waiting for the alpine caves to unthaw. Let me know if you want some help...

If you're thinking of going in the spring, I have one piece of advice: check the weather report and road conditions before going. We went all the way out there once only to meet a snow storm heading...