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How bad would it have been without a wet suit.
ANyone done Black hole without a wetsuit?
How cold tolerant are you?
Where is the closes place to rent a wet suit to the black hole?

Thanks Shane
Plan to be in Utah from July 9th through the 17th.
Looking to do the black hole and fry around the 11th or 12th

Looking forward to reading your trip report
Hope you have a great time.

Anyone been through Fry Canyon lately?
What where the conditions like.


In reading beta it sounds like you can either downclimb the 20 ft section that is rated as 5.4 or combine the first...

Has anyone been through th Black Hole recently or has plans to before July 10th?

Would anyone be interested in doing a Black Hole family trip on the July 10, 11 or 12?

Thanks for the information.
Wasn't sure the restops would be an acceptable solution.

Any recommendation for camping near the lake or a river. It sounds like in certain areas if you are desperse camping you need portable facilities which is something we don't plan to bring out from...

Thanks Stepan, Shane, Nat for the reply
We are pretty heat tolerant as long it is a dry heat.

We have no problem getting up before sunrise to avoid the heat.

Where would be the best place to...

Of the Non Tech and Tech Canyons below which would be tolerable in July.
We will be in Utah and have July 9th to July 13 available before 5 days in Escalante and 5 days in the Grand Canyon.
We have...

I think they are missing the actual problem.
They should ban oversized vehicles or severly restrict their times.

That way there would be no need of a range and you would have better trafic flow....

This info is available in Tom's book.
But here is my recommendations based on our experience
Subway- 60 ft rope works great
Keyhole - 120ft rope
I would always recommend helmets.
You may want to...

Just an FI.
I recieved mountain gear flier in today's mail and it has Exum Ridge on sale for 69.98 and Rivers on sale for 64.98

The ranger at the tunnel made a comment about this.
He said the plan was to do the lower portion( canyon junction to tunnel ) next year and then do the portion above the tunnel the following year.
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Was wondering if anyone has been through recenty?

Plan on doing Pine Creek in a few days and wondering if anyone has been through recently.
How much water is in the canyon?

I second that, Thanks for Posting.

We will be out there with Rick on Monday and Thursday next week.

Can't wait.

Kevin from Michigan

I didn't realize prefering to rappel double made you a beginner.
I am in favor of rappeling single strand but my wife has read too many of the accident reports where people have messed up while...

I have the following ropes. All 9mm
60ft, 120ft, 200ft

If we want to rappel double. Will the 120ft be long enought after being tied to the 200 ft rope for the last rappel without making the start...

I have a new 60m 9mm Imlay Canyon rope.

I was wondering if there is a way to soften it up before heading out to the canyons.

Even with the Express Permit System. If you are trying to do a canyon like Mystery and don't get a lottery pick you are still waiting in line to get the Permit.

I also wish I could transfer my...

Here is a picture of my daughter with this setup from a few years ago.
Not sure How she would burn her face. If she burned it from the device Ithink she would be getting rope burn on the face too.
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Get Busy at work and not read the forums for a few days and a whole fest gets planned. Great Job DiscGo and Tanya.

Well, I was hoping to meet some of you, but we will be leaving zion on the 26th...