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The toughest part will be figuring out when to push them or not. This will be kid specific and I guarantee if you push them too hard/early you will turn them off to the sport. On the other hand, the...

Bo,

Thanks for getting back to me.

Given the weather, impassable roads, etc. We ended up just backpacking down 29 mile wash to the Colorado river (south east rim)

Was going to do the...

Bo - thanks for the update.
We only have a stock 4 wheel drive Explorer - not sure if it will be passable by Friday.
If it does dry out sooner than expected, do you have a dozen or so Rap Rings in...

Looking at the latest weather reports - I think watching "dancing girls" in Vegas may be the way to go at least until Friday - just saw the Behunin video posting. Don't want to win the Darwin award...

Scott - thanks for the contact info

Will be checking with both agencies when heading out to make sure roads still passable!

Look forward to posting the standard "old guys hanging off cliffs'...

All - just got this message from Rich Rudlow

"After the service project at Toroweap last weekend we went over and descended Cove. Unlike some other Grand Canyon slots, where you're stuck in a...

Bogleyites,

Have a trip planned next Thursday to go out and do the Cove canyon route per Todd's amazing book "Grand Canyoneering"

However, I keep seeing "30% chance of thunder storms" on the...

Excellent pics & report! It's on my to do list this summer!
Question - you noted 5 hours for the canyon section, how long to walk out down Orderville & narrows?

Thanks - of course "drown - resistant" is a derivative of "fool - resistant" as everyone knows there is nothing "fool - proof" as the fools will always win in the end :crazy::crazy:

Now speaking...

Here at the beach we have a term for non-swimmers who go in the water - we call them "RESCUES"

In fact, we rescue people who are "pool lifeguards" & "competitive swimmers" all the time. There is a...

well I just got a good posting from Rich Rudow on canyon collective regarding packrafting on the Colorado river. From his point of view (which I respect greatly as he is one of the guys that got...

That's a great point! - I was assuming that the Colorado was deep enough where rocks/bottom would not be an issue, When you went down the Kern using the board - did you have any gear with you? how...

Okay - so I made the mistake of buying Todd's Grand Canyoneering book and have now pulled a permit to do Cove Canyon in September. I was researching packrafts and wondered if I could use a canvas...

"I suspect that an institutional human subjects protection committee would likely be reluctant to actually approve such research without a lot of very expensive life/safety safeguards in place" -...

What was your breathing rate on the rap? Maybe a combination of dehydration, fatigue & hyperventilation caused the issue? During my time lifeguarding at the ocean the last thirty years we see a lot...

Your 11 year old daughter tells you to suck it up and face your fear when getting on rope

Thanks for the posting and story - may it be a reminder to enjoy everyday and be careful out there

"let your walk around the Bogley office building in your underwear." - speaking for the guys who view this forum - Please don't feel the need to post a picture! :nono:

Of course, maybe there are...

Nice - how long did it take and did you need to build out anchors along the way?

Makes me think of the old saying "There are old canyoneers and bold canyoneers but no old bold canyoneers!"

With the kids - we go single strand into pools of water for easy disconnect and almost always double strand 8mm for everything vertical or near vertical. I send down the oldest to fireman the others....

Okay - since everyone is showing off their kids :cool2:

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Hank -
Thanks for the advice, you are right, I only spent about an hour with them testing various rope sizes, etc and got to a point where I knew I could use them in a pinch but certainly not fluid...

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who had a tough time getting tiblocs to work with 8mm ropes. I'll give the "German" setup a shot. Other than that any other suggestions or am I better off with...

Thanks for the suggestion - Buckskin to Paria is a great route, unfortunately the we have used a prior hall pass on that one and are looking for something new. Since the three of us are long time...