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There's also the issue that climbing rope or even "static" like Mammut caving rope is quite bouncy when you're near the end of a 165' rap.

To be fair, that tends to happen everywhere - Permit Queues, random shops in St.George, (OK, it was Bo's place, so not quite random) canyons... pretty much every damned canyon we go in, actually...

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I'm not sure of our exact start time, but I think it was about 0845-0900 local, by my GPS we were up at Scouts Lookout at 1015 and turned off the West Rim Trail around 1130. We were back at the...

Not yet a trip report, but a big thank you from all of us - Myself, Sarahlizzy, Sylvia and Andrea - to Tom for taking us down Behunin Canyon on Tuesday. It was quite a learning experience and...

This was not immediately obvious from your initial comment at the time :-)

Yes, I particularly liked the bit where I passed the string, err, I mean canyonfire rope forward for the bit that used to be a bumslide because we were concerned about the lack of water in it this...

We did bring four radios - sadly, it seems the two non-waterproof European-spec ones I have (8-channel PMR ones) and the waterproof pair Sara have are not compatible. The waterproofing on one of...

The Mystery Springs handline I try very hard to ignore all the physics I know when considering how much force must get put in that if someone slips - I'd already lost my footing slightly (Courtesy...

Worn nearly half way through the metal - it's reassuring to see how much use they can take before needing to be retired. (Plus educational, so we know when to bin our own kit)

Sarah forgot to mention the group in front of us, whom she christened "Cargo Cult" Canyoneers. They had some equipment (A piece of rope of suspect origin) and knew some terminology. ("On Belay!")...

Drat! Now we'll just have to come back next year and do it again. :haha:[/quote]

We also need to learn how to do a guided rap, for extra crowd-pleasing ability!

Seconded - Thanks, Tom. Also, I was somewhat impressed by the size of your fish collection in your carport. :-)

Also, I struggled at the start a bit, not being used to rope bags - I'd tried to clip it to my harness only to find it swung about and unbalanced me on the downclimb. Slinging it over my back was...

OK, so I guess the point is that with a Z-rig or similar, if you're using wiregates then you can basically just shove the rope through the gate and it'll slow you even if the rope is still moving.
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Umm, I may be about to make myself look stupid, but why can't you add friction with the Pirana? Admittedly you're more limited double roping than single lining but you can just wrap the rope around...

Tried using a prusik as an autoblock today while abseiling, didn't like it much as it removes the ability to adjust the friction on the fly when using a Petzl Pirana as easily. I'm guessing a shunt...

This is probably a topic on which there will be a variety of opinions, but what devices along the lines of Petzl Shunts/Tiblocks and WIld Country Ropemen (As well as a Purcell Prusik or two,...

Thanks! We're doing Pine Creek on the 6th July - I'm a little unsure about the floating disconnects as I'm not that used to them, but I have a Petzl Pirana which should make things easier. We also...

Well, you're welcome to join me when I go for a run or something - I have offered! I should be doing 4 and 8 mile hikes (In one or two hours respectively) over broken terrain (Woods etc) with a...

[quote=Don]Climber girls, brit accents and they plan their own canyoneering! Answer questions, hell, I'll volunteer to carry their packs

Is Russell Gulch the route where you rappel into the start of the Subway itself? I think we saw some people doing that last time and personally I'd like to try it - I'm not sure all members of our...

This was pretty much exactly my thought process, and it's nice to have some confirmation that I'm not completely out in left field. The four of us who did The Subway last year did it by rappelling...