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  1. Thread: Impeachment

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    Several lines from Murkowski's statement on her...

    Several lines from Murkowski's statement on her vote are interesting and could be read both ways. "Congress has failed," "this trial can't be impartial," "one institution has been degraded and I...
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    Wow, Murkowski came out against witnesses. Really...

    Wow, Murkowski came out against witnesses. Really surprising to me. Making it 51-49 was, I think, critically important. Roberts potentially could have voted to break the tie. No guarantee he would...
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    Best case: Romney, Collins, Murkowski vote to...

    Best case: Romney, Collins, Murkowski vote to acquit even though they don't get more witnesses. Manchin and Jones vote to acquit being in heavy R states. Not realistic that Feinstein or Sinema vote...
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    Alexander announces vote for no more witnesses,...

    Alexander announces vote for no more witnesses, and with a good statement on overall acquital. Romney announces he wants more witnesses, specifically Bolton.

    We're likely at 50-50 if Murkowski...
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    Waiting to hear Lamar Alexander's decision on...

    Waiting to hear Lamar Alexander's decision on witnesses or not. As we sit, Collins announced she is for more witnesses. You'd have to assume Murkowski and Romney will go with her. So we're at 50-49...
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    And of course Collins and Murkowski submitted a...

    And of course Collins and Murkowski submitted a question that gives indication about their leanings.

    Paraphrasing: "If Trump was concerned about corruption in Ukraine, did he bring it up in 2017,...
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    Dershowitz incredible again tonight. Particularly...

    Dershowitz incredible again tonight. Particularly two points.

    1. 1st term vs 2nd term action. A pres orders an investigation vs a "potential opponent" in the first term, as here, and that's called...
  8. Thread: Impeachment

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    Dems are playing a game where they want Bolton...

    Dems are playing a game where they want Bolton but not Biden/s to testify. I think they might reject any witness deal, in order to keep the Bidens out. Better to claim a crooked trial and let it end,...
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    I know the 2/3 requirement. But there's no...

    I know the 2/3 requirement. But there's no denying it's a powerful message to run on: "a majority thinks he's guilty."

    52-48 to remove was my prediction way back months ago when this started. I...
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    Probably says more that she's confident enough...

    Probably says more that she's confident enough damage has been done.

    I'm upping my odds of a Dem sweep from 40 to 50%. Kelly came out backing Bolton. The knives are out, blows are being landed.
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    The behavior of these key Repubs is exactly what...

    The behavior of these key Repubs is exactly what we saw for decades. Giving in to Dems "just a little" to make a deal possible. Trump ushered in a new era, of fighting and standing up. The key reason...
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    Agreed ^. But it still comes down to how this...

    Agreed ^. But it still comes down to how this plays out, in moving votes. We know the House didn't subpoena Bolton because they wanted to rush. We know his testimony doesn't materially change...
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    DOW selling off a bit today. Small 1%+ move so...

    DOW selling off a bit today. Small 1%+ move so far. But as the stakes get higher, the market, imo, will begin to price in risk of a Dem sweep.

    You can't forget, Iceaxe, we live in a bubble. Where...
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    So now we have Bolton possibly claiming in a book...

    So now we have Bolton possibly claiming in a book that Trump directly told him he wanted aid to Ukraine held to get Biden investigations going. And whether he actually says that in the upcoming book...
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    So the RCP average of polls is now showing more...

    So the RCP average of polls is now showing more opposed to removal than for. Given that same average of polls was markedly for removal several months ago, safe to say the tide has turned to the point...
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    Add: Great quote from Murkowski tonight saying...

    Add: Great quote from Murkowski tonight saying the Dems' calling for witnesses, and court battles to bring them, is something the House should not dump on and expect the Senate to do.

    That's a...
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    Mike Lee on Foxnews was good tonight. I still...

    Mike Lee on Foxnews was good tonight. I still don't like him anymore, but he was adamant about the case being so weak it should be closed now.

    I didn't hear what Schiff said about heads on pikes...
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    Collins "stunned" by Nadler's words. ...

    Collins "stunned" by Nadler's words.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stunned-sen-collins-objected-to-nadlers-impeachment-accusation-in-note-to-roberts

    Add in Hakeem's utterly ridiculous...
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    Murkowski "offended" by Nadler's comments. ...

    Murkowski "offended" by Nadler's comments.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeachment-backfire-key-gop-senator-offended-by-nadler-charge-as-trial-tests-patience-and-stamina

    Dems are appealing...
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    ^ Massive PR win for Trump. Political clown team...

    ^ Massive PR win for Trump. Political clown team screaming Russian collusion for 2 years vs actual Constitutional scholars.
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    The battle will be over "all witnesses or no...

    The battle will be over "all witnesses or no witnesses." My guess is the Dems will go for none, but argue they were stopped from calling any in a coverup. Everything is designed for media spin, and...
  22. Thread: Impeachment

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    It's called execudem privilege.

    It's called execudem privilege.
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    That's good to hear and I'm glad you added that....

    That's good to hear and I'm glad you added that. I only read the article.
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    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/947400?n...

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/947400?ns_mail_uid=0554a89c-fe34-4933-8104-96358923d059&ns_mail_job=DM77908_12262019&s=acs&dkt_nbr=01050269in6n&section=newsfront&keywords=bipartisan-acquitta...
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    I heard two pieces of analysis regarding the...

    I heard two pieces of analysis regarding the delay. 1, the preamble to the articles says the speaker "shall" send over, etc. So she's in violation of the law in not sending over; 2, a Senate rule...
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