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04-19-2012, 08:19 PM
Thread: Rope Choice
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Too serious, oh lad of the sandals... you...
Too serious, oh lad of the sandals... you suggested a rope from a suspect source, I riffed off your suggestion. That's all.
This horse dead yet? :deadhorse:
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04-19-2012, 02:41 PM
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Current hangtag says 3900 lbsF. 3900 is not the...
Current hangtag says 3900 lbsF. 3900 is not the same as 3600. That's some linear thinking, right there.
Glad to provide entertainment... :crazy:
Harbor Freight. Best Ropes EVER!
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04-19-2012, 07:56 AM
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Nope. And Nope. "Wouldn't that also be the...
Nope. And Nope.
"Wouldn't that also be the way your own designs of ropes function?"
Nope.
When you put a static rope on the testing machine, it loads up and extends, and then the core... -
04-18-2012, 11:19 PM
Thread: Rope Choice
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Found it under new products... ...
Found it under new products... http://www.pelicanrope.com/low-angle-canyon-rescue-ropes.html
As Technora Prusik line... A cord for Prusik would be made soft to have more grip, might not be... -
04-18-2012, 09:24 PM
Thread: Rope Choice
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Again, interesting... I cannot find a Technora...
Again, interesting... I cannot find a Technora sheath / Polyester core on their website - can you direct me to the product you are suggesting? I am genuinely interested in this item.
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04-18-2012, 07:47 PM
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Hmmm. Interesting. What's the ratio? ...
Hmmm. Interesting.
What's the ratio?
Easiest way to measure is to cut some length, pull the core out of the sheath and weigh the two parts. Gotta have enough material to produce good results on... -
04-18-2012, 04:33 PM
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Just to be clear, your "Really?" is limited to...
Really? The ropes these guys are recommending cost as much or more than dynamic ropes. I've seen cheaper 60 meter dynamic ropes for as little as $100[/QUOTE]
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04-18-2012, 04:21 PM
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Many ropes have sheath slippage problems,...
Many ropes have sheath slippage problems, including my Canyon Fire and Canyonero, at times. And the Canyon Pro and DS at times.
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04-18-2012, 04:07 PM
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"Sheath-heavy" has a specific meaning, and I...
"Sheath-heavy" has a specific meaning, and I could find no evidence that this is a sheath-heavy rope. Please retract your claim - it is bogus.
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04-12-2012, 11:34 AM
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How do YOU finish the end and does it work well?...
How do YOU finish the end and does it work well?
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04-04-2012, 03:55 PM
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Good effort, though it looks like your taste is...
Good effort, though it looks like your taste is on the fat side... :haha:
It would be more useful if your units were consistent... for Canyon Fire, the weight is 3.85; for C'yero 4.2. ... -
03-22-2012, 06:50 PM
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I think you're barking up the wrong tree there...
I think you're barking up the wrong tree there dsr70. The issue is not the lowish breaking strength, the issue is the low melting temperature of polypro, or, more technically, the low transition...
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03-22-2012, 02:36 PM
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Uh, let's not lose track of an important...
Uh, let's not lose track of an important parameter here. A dynamic climbing rope is not just a rope made of nylon. After being made, it is (usually) electrostatically treated to achieve the desired...
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03-22-2012, 02:28 PM
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You mean, people who have only ever rappelled on...
You mean, people who have only ever rappelled on dynamic climbing ropes have little to no awareness that actual static ropes have significantly different properties?
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03-22-2012, 02:24 PM
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Yes. There is absorption (internal) and...
Yes. There is absorption (internal) and adsorption (external). Nylon does both, as the nylon molecule hydrates by forming weak bonds with some water molecules; thus some absorption takes place, which...
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03-22-2012, 02:10 PM
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"Static Ropes" is a general class, and elongation...
"Static Ropes" is a general class, and elongation will vary substantially between brands and models. I just checked the test data, and Imlay ropes (Polyester/Polyester) stretch between 1% and 2% at...
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03-21-2012, 09:59 PM
Thread: Rope Choice
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But for normal, beginning canyoneering, yeah, not...
But for normal, beginning canyoneering, yeah, not ideal but not really a problem. Go for it.
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