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Thanks, Tom. Guess I'll play the last minute lotto....

If I get a permit for Orderville, to exit downstream, do I need a permit for Englestead given that the technical part of the canyon appears to be outside of the park? I know the backcountry desk...

We went through Echo the day before you did. I was surprised by how cool it was and don't know why it is not more popular. (I'm not complaining). We did Das Boot/Subway the day before, and I...

My parents thought that giving me a name like noncuratlex would protect me from those vicious rhyming playground taunts.... :wink:

Tyler

I went down Fat Man's last week. Lots of water, none of it flowing. East Fork was flowing at 150 cfs and it was a fun float down to the exit. The exit is where the river makes an almost 180 degree...

Went down Misery on Wednesday, May 11. Lots of water (it rained hard on the 10th) and a surprising amount of quicksand. Less than full wetsuits would have been chilly. East fork flowing at about...

Just did. Apparently they are going in tomorrow to assess the conditions......

Thanks for the update on conditions. Looks like Misery it will be..

Anyone have any info on when the park service may re-open the Subway? We have permits for next week, but may need to look at something else- perhaps Misery. Anyone been down Misery recently- is...

Can anyone shed some light on what the Das Boot variation would be like with this kind of water in it? Has anyone been down it in May 2010?