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Thanks for all that excellent info Tom!!!

A caver friend and I are looking at doing Kolob this summer. Tom's site warns of no more than 5cfs for that canyon. Duly noted. We know to check the release schedule. But we show up, how do you guess...

I need a new wetsuit for canyoneering. I searched the forum for any recommendation threads and came up empty. I ahve seen several posts on wetsuits scattered here and there but no one thread. (If...

Maarten it was great fun running Pine Creek & Keyhole with you! Looking forward to hearing about the rest of your trip.

-Kyle

Wow, I have never seen that many people there before. In fact as I recall we have always had the place to ourselves. However at the Spry exit point into Pine Creek there are always people swimming...

Correct. I have always just rappelled at Picture 3. Heard it could be downclimbed but the rap was quick and easy for us everytime.
Yea picture number 6, one time my feet were wet from the previous...

I just read the back of my PEAKS Pass for Vail and it doesnt mention trespassing, it does say holder assumes all risk of liabaility.
This was back home in the South were I saw the trespassing stuff...

I have always thought about downclimbing this but thought it widened up too much about halfway down. Next time I go through defintiely giving it a shot.

Unfortunately if you read the back of most ski passes, it generally has a stipulation that the ski pass is also your "permit" to ski on the private property and that skiing without a pass would be...

Surely you jest. I have encountered rangers in Spry on occasion, and was once stopped by a Protection Ranger when getting to the car at the end of Spry (different trip).

I would imagine they...

Might as well say I do canyons on garden hoses using your belt loop on harnesses. The flagarant disregard for yourself, and havoc you could cause on others(in canyon, rescuers, etc) is absolutely...

Valid point on the permit system. Yea it would suck to miss both. Ive done Mystery before, but hoped to get in a trip this year. But never done top down narrows. So would put that priority first.
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I will probably be using ZAC shuttle and would take the later one arriving at 11am.
I would love to take the 630a departure(arriving around 8a) but I need to go stand in line at the permit desk in...

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If I did it as a day hike I would take my camelbak with a few liters of water, my MSR filter pump, some food, and maybe an extra layer. So I would fall into the fast and light category,...

Thinking of doing the Narrows from Chamberlain down to the Temple in the coming weeks. Those of you that I have done it did you do it as a big day hike or did you break it up and camp over night? And...

The only time I have done Birch we used the directions in Toms book to park between the two ranches, and walk the ATV trail, then follow a trail down to the watercourse.

This was due to seeing a...

Rescue? You got anymore info on that? I couldnt find anything on the interwebs.

Also I was there 6/5 and didnt see these bolts or webbing.

Wow. That is crazy. I've never done Das Boot, but it seems crazy to have two permits. When we did Subway from Top down, we just had one permit. IMHO doing das boot is just an alternate route for the...

Totally do able, but I normally do Pine Creek first, since parking gets hairy later in the day.

I cant compete with Brian's times, but we did car to car at Key Hole in about an hour.

I've been there! That is Stephen's Gap Cave near Scottsboro, AL.
It is around a 140' rappel. What the picture doesnt show too is the awesomely large horizontal entrance directly to the photographers...

Glad to hear it's finely open!

Cool. Thanks guys.

Iceaxe that dog story is amazing. I thought surely they wouldn't bring it in the canyon...oh they did.

Tom that seems like quite a bit of rope to carry around, but I guess...

Forgive me for being a bit of a dummy here. But I have always heard of people stashing the final rope at Emerald Pools as is the case of the OP. But Im curious as to what is going on here.

As Tom...