So much for anyone participating in debate bingo, pushup challenge, drinking game or anything else!
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So much for anyone participating in debate bingo, pushup challenge, drinking game or anything else!
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Originally Posted by dougrz
I thought you were halfway there already? :ne_nau:
I'll repeat what I said in a previous post - I don't think much is going to change with the presidency because this country has been corporatized. Politicians don't run the country -- multi-billion dollar corporations do. Do you think multi-billion dollar corporations like Amazon, Apple and Walmart are gonna let the presidency affect their bottom lines? I doubt it.
Trump's rally in August slowed my search, but the prepping for a Trump win was growing in urgency.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
Large corps will do better under Dems. Open borders = more consumers, the end of the trade war with China means easy production again, and higher taxes/regs builds a moat around the bigger companies.Quote:
Do you think multi-billion dollar corporations like Amazon, Apple and Walmart are gonna let the presidency affect their bottom lines? I doubt it.
Of course you are. You see it as "other" people see it, right? So Biden looking at the camera and pleading wins hearts and minds, eh? He already had 'em.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougrz
Trump is all about strength. That's why he won in 2016 and that's why he'll win again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv9XNFpRdhg
By and large, it was kind of a draw. Trump and Biden both were exactly what one would expect...although Biden looks ill.
Personally, I don't think any more debates are necessary.
I suspect Biden will refuse more. Saying Trump so violated decorum that it isn't necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron
Someone on Fox made the comment, "The media unanimously declared Clinton the winner of all the debates in 2016, but Trump always gained a little after each one."
Agreed. I thought he did very well in all of them that year. The "Because you'd be in jail" comment probably was the best moment in 40 years. But that discipline wasn't there tonight.
That would be a HUGE mistake as it will make him appear weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougrz
This is also the reason I said tonight's debate would take place when many thought Biden would be hiden...
If I'm ever drowning, I hope someone comes along to save me with the same energy Chris Wallace came in with to save Joe Biden tonight.
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Polled my group of 12 hard core followers of politics.
4- Trump held his own
2- not good, fatal, Trump has lost
1- not good but not fatal
1- skirted (my county's Repub chair)
4- both hurt themselves
Which confirms my take. Trump is behind and needed a win and whiffed big. I'm as low now as when the Access Hollywood tape emerged.
Given Ingraham's montage, Trump did great. All his supporters on Fox made great points and articulated our side well. We are not lacking in well spoken people and absolutely have truth, decency, and common sense on our side. Bongino's take was the most bullish.
Personally--I think I won the debate...
I took my daughter and 2 grandsons out fishing yesterday afternoon/evening.
We only caught 3 but one was a grandsons first, on a new rod he bought, with money he earned working at a hardware store.(he's 12)
So no matter who is President--I plan on furthering a generation of outdoorsman.
Currently helping another grandson get his hunter education certificate.
So I don't know who won the Presidential debate and frankly don't care, life as I know it will live on, I'm making sure of that.
But I did see this interesting tidbit:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFile...pe-1612962.JPG
Sounds like this may be an accurate picture.
Probably many turned off by the whole spectacle.
https://image.cagle.com/243725/750/243725.png
The great irony in this is a vote for D means more govt power in our lives, more needing to be bullied by politicians, more needing to listen since our lives depend on it increasingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
You almost wish we had an electorate smart enough to put it all together and see.
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Originally Posted by oldno7
Precisely...because he did win. If winning is what it could be called. It's all about strength, and Trump looked stronger...there is no doubt about that.
Trump is pissed and I certainly don't blame him. I've seen bits and pieces of his rallies lately and he sees Biden as virtually insignificant...a dried up has been. Of all the people that have come after him, Biden is by far the weakest.
Personally, I would find it difficult myself to stand there and be "polite" to the figurehead of the party that wants to burn it all down. I think Trump sees Biden and his crew as being a clear and present danger to America...and they are. I think Trumps tactic was to come out and shred his ass, and he did. Screw the "be a nice guy" bullshit. Fight fire with fire.
"Dog whistle" Biden says...how about his lie about Charlottesville?...there's your dog whistle right there. Biden deserved to get his ass kicked. They went behind the stands, alright.
Hey Doug...put me down in the "win" column. I don't and wasn't expecting an orange James Bond to walk out on to that stage.
You and I have discussed this...and I DO think we have an electorate smart enough to figure it out. The contrast this time around is SUPER SHARP.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougrz
Bear in mind that Biden pissed a lot of people off last night in regards to the new green deal and defunding the police...he's trying to appeal to moderates but like Trump said...the leftists own his ass and he'll do exactly what he's told.
Best line of the night..."Antifa is dangerous, and they'll overthrow you". You bet....and they'll do it by setting him down in a nice comfortable chair with a cup of tea.
was so bad, has this guy moving out of the Country...:roflol:
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The Vista Outdoors stockholder in action. I see they bought Remington's ammo biz out of the bk. Good to see that name live on in some form.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
In trying to find some positives, and recalling the Access Hollywood low point in 2016, this may be it. How many people last night said, "Holy crap. Our politics is so putrid, the fighting so endless and so guaranteed, maybe we should end govt so we can all live peacefully." In a civil discussion, in thoughtful conversation, there is some level of trust generated that govt can make good decisions. That is certainly not a feeling in people today.Quote:
So no matter who is President--I plan on furthering a generation of outdoorsman.
Such is the more rural life, and why I want to leave my metro life. A Dem immigration and policing future means urban dwellers can't not care. It'll surround us.Quote:
So I don't know who won the Presidential debate and frankly don't care, life as I know it will live on, I'm making sure of that.
We were talking about this number last night and thought it reflected the Latin culture's affinity for machismo, loudness, bluster, and force. Hugo Chavez won on personality. No one survives in S. Am. politics with thoughtfulness and timidity.Quote:
Lot of good thoughts in your post. Brain behind the memes. As expected.
There you go B-dog fuSnickens on some quality debate analysis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron
Yep. I stopped watching at about the 2/3 mark, disgusted at the blatant mud slinging by both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
I was forced to watch the debate from start to finish because I didn't want "the news" telling me what happened for the simple reason they are untrustworthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
I watched it. I like to watch 37 car pile up. Nobody "forced" me either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Ice.... you show a lack of discipline that even shocks me. I barely give a shit about anything.
Probably because I have a lot more money invested than you do and need to pay attention to world matters so I know when and how to move it to take full advantage of opportunities.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirkHammergate
FWIW - Friday's jobs report will have a bigger impact on investment's than last nights debate, and I'll be watching that also ;-)
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
So your money just magically reproduces?!? Good for you! Mine isn't that smart and I have to keep an eye on it, where it's going, and how it's invested.
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I agree it's unlikely your money is magically reproducing... since your exwife got all yours in the divorce I assume I'll have to ask her...Quote:
Originally Posted by DirkHammergate
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Originally Posted by DirkHammergate
I just love it when folks continually poke the bear with a stick.
Carry on.....:popcorn:
Well that's a weird one...I can't tell if it's an insult or if you want to give me a sloppy, wet kiss. How about some clarification? I hope you're not going to revert back to that stupid schtick you had going a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by DirkHammergate
BTW...I'd like to humbly apologize for insulting you a few months back...when I said that you're a c*cksucking sissy that loves to swill the splooge. After giving it some thought, I realized that the swilling the splooge thing might have been a bit heavy.
It appears you want some analysis? OK...it's not too hard to figure out. Remember a few years ago when Biden said he'd like to take Trump back behind the bleachers and kick his ass? Well...Trump met him at those bleachers last night and Biden got his ass kicked. If you're gonna talk it, you better walk it, pal.
Kinda like that fatal meeting between Doc Holliday and Ringo...
Biden..."Oh, I was just foolin' about"
Trump..."I wasn't"
There's you analysis, sweetheart.
The debate has at least produced some great memes :-)
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
You're not the only one.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/so...now-2020-09-16
I found this paragraph just mind bogling. While it makes sense that rich liberals would worry about other things, it's still unbelievable how blasse they are about the economic impacts of a Biden presidency.
"Bishop’s liberal-leaning clients want to hear about potential opportunities and tend to downplay the idea of new tax rules upending their finances. As for Bishop’s conservative-leaning clients, “they think this is going to hell in a hand basket” and want to get ready to quickly lock in rates and minimize tax exposure if Biden wins."
Just watched an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News that was very interesting and informative... He did acknowledge the debate was a shit show and that he had little control. Wallace did acknowledge he was not prepared for what took place. I give him props for owning it.
Part of what he mentioned was how do you tell the most powerful man in the free world and the guy gunning for his job to STFU.
I'm sure Fox will replay it and it's worth watching just to see what was going through Wallace's head.
Kyle Rittenhouse files lawsuit against Biden and Biden's campaign team claiming libel.
Good for him, I hope he wins!!
Seems like a decent case.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-ritt...aign-libel.amp
I'm taking this one back. The progressives want to bail on the two that are left...and if that's what they want then count me out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron
I've heard it said that if Trump would have just let Biden spew, he would have made a fool of himself even more than he did. I agree with that...so if they throw down some kind of "mute" button next time, that'll be fine.
The biggest problem with that debate is that it afforded no time for rebuttal...and rebuttals are going to happen. Also, it wasn't Trump that took it to the ground, it was Biden. It opened with 2 minutes for Trump, then 2 minutes for Biden...each spoke uninterrupted. But then when it was Trump's turn for the next round, Biden started making comments. The bulldozing began with Biden and it pissed Trump off.
Wallace lost control of that debate in precisely four minutes thirty five seconds.