Can you ride e bikes on the Bonneville Shoreline Trail? I want to buy my wife one?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...64ba5bff7e.jpg
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Can you ride e bikes on the Bonneville Shoreline Trail? I want to buy my wife one?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...64ba5bff7e.jpg
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Looks like u can?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d2940a826f.jpg
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http://www.cyclingutah.com/advocacy/...c-bike-issues/
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Ebikes are currently a very touchy subject. Many land managers are currently wrestling with how they should be classified and there is currently no consensus. Everyone has a different opinion and where they are allowed changes back and forth at a pretty high rate. Just because they are legal or illegal someplace today doesn't mean the same will hold true tomorrow.
If you want my personal opinion I think they will eventually be classified as a motor vehicle when the dust eventually settles if for no other reason than it's the easiest place to draw the line. Ebike manufacturers are not doing themselves any favor in classifying as they continue to blur the line between bicycle and motorcycle.
Anyhoo.... that's my 2 cents.
Seriously....
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I can certainly agree that this is absolutely pathetic.
In regards to E-bikes on mountain bike trails, I have no problem with it at all. In fact, if I ever have the desire (or old age forces me) to buy one, I'll go right ahead and ride any trail I wish regardless of what some stinking sign says.
Anybody wanna give me grief because I'm riding trails in Moab on an E-bike? Well kiss my ass and call the cops.
Ebikes are a lot like dating a porn star and skipping the sex.
ROFLMAO
This ad popped up on a website I was looking at this morning. What a sweet, high performance mtn. ebike!:roflol:
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Here some info for you boys to chew on. Had an attorney i run around with have one of his clerks do a little research. He says the Forest Service has banned class 2 bikes. He also says as usual Gov agencies have stepped beyond what Congress has passed to create their own policies. His opinion is at some point somone will legally challenge....... he wants me to get the forest service to right me a ticket and he'd like to go to court and see how the forest service would defend their position. He has been unable to find anything as far as a written document on why the BLM has banned e bikes. He called them today but they have not returned his call.
We took whole trailer of non motorized vehicles (according to congress) and motorized vehicles to George a couple of weeks ago and had a riot. We rode about every mtn bike trail there as well as rode the dunes at Sandhollow. Great 4 day trip.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...067ac50f9e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e3b30839e9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2ad5f5a233.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7bd25564aa.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5f671c6f8f.jpg
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I'm looking to take my ebike down south and hit Gooseberry Mesa, then still have time and energy to hit another full length trail the same day.
The more complaints I hear about ebikes, the more I laugh. With Specialized, Trek, Cannondale and other major mountain bike brands jumping into the ebike game, the "purists" are so conflicted. Then the ranger at Corner Canyon patrols on an ebike.
To be accused of cheating in an imaginary contest, it only motivates me to record other rides on Strava.
According to Contender Bicycle the forest service bought three of them to patrol trails in this area. Park City ski resort who had them band bought 40 for the rental Fleet for this coming year. Could be b******* could be true.
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When you're in Saint George and you have an e-bike and a KTM 300 to ride and you spend more time riding the e-bike that should tell you something. I own and have a owned a lot of toys in my life and it is right up there at the top of the list. Just damn fun.
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Yeah when you see photos from guys up on Ben Lomond with dirt bikes and people think that would be fun, and then they see an ebike up there and the very same people start bitching, like it's cheating, but the motorcycle was ok, it's nice to know who I can ignore in the future.
I'm waiting for the day where I get scolded on Mueller Park trail for riding an ebike, from some idiot that doesn't realize it's a moto friendly trail. I'll have it all on camera for the good folks of bogley.
My brother is a big time Strava nerd and has a couple KOM's, so last year I took my dirt bike all over the trails by the Bountiful B while running Strava. Grabbed me a fistful of KOM's and got a message from some dipshit calling me "unethical, and everything wrong with America". He did not appreciate my joke. Little did he know that his message made me 10 times happier than just sending the screenshot to my bro.
That being said, ebikes are not mountain bikes and shouldn't just be automatically allowed on every trail that mtn bikes are allowed. They are a completely separate user group and should be allowed or not allowed on a case by case basis.
This would be pretty fun railing in corner canyon though: https://www.stealthelectricbikes.com/
still loving my ebike for commuting, more fun than the 650 moto ever was
I noticed “E-Bike” under sport in Strava, along with a bunch of other things. So you can select it and put your ride under that category. Not sure how long it’s been in there. I guess it’s on the honor system.
The E bike setting has been there for at least a year. Unfortunately E bikes attract a large contingent of noobs to Strava and they just record under biking. Most probably believe the calories listed as burned is for their E bike.
I ride a MTB for the exercise, when I ride one of the Corner Canyon trails that cuts through the golf course I always laugh to myself at all the guys riding around in golf carts, drinking beer, and telling their buddies what great exercise golf is. I think of an E bike the same as I think of those golfers.
YMMV
I've been watching a lot of EMBN youtube vids of late. A lot of world class MTB folks are getting in on the trend. They are doing some pretty incredible rides... skill level 11 stuff. Another good place to look into it is the online magazine ebike-mtb,com. This is the ebike version of Enduro - sister publication. Mock them all you want some retired pros are making them look pretty incredible!
Hey when can Ebike riders start comparing themselves to the Civil Rights movement for the harassment? :lol8:
Strava defaults to the last activity you did. I both run and MTB so I flip between those two settings.
FWIW - AFTER you complete and activity if you recorded it under the wrong setting you can simply edit your Strava and it recalculates all your times. Occasionally I forget to switch back to MTB after running and all the runners scream bloody murder when I destroy all their KOM's on my MTB,
That's the thing though, I don't think I did anything before. If I did, it was years ago and I had no ebike.
Hey there's gotta be some way for ebike haters to feel good about themselves when they see the smiles on the faces of ebike riders, wayyyyy up in front
https://www.singletracks.com/blog/tr...n-e-bike-demo/
First crack in the armor.
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What's the crack in the armor? This is pretty much how all trails are currently managed, which is on a case by case bases just like the Idaho BLM is proposing.
As someone who has been heavily involved in both off road motorcycles and mountain bikes I have a dog in both fights.
But my advice to MTB riders is if you except ebikes as equals it will eventually bite you in the ass and result in losing trails over the long haul. I went through this with motorcycles in the 70's and 80's and the loss of trails and I can tell you exactly how it will eventually end if ebikes and MTB's are grouped together.
YMMV
The crack in the armor is this will be the first BLM District who has possibly made a change. The article said the decision would be made in January or February. I emailed the district manager up there I'll see what what they decided.
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What I find interesting about this possible change in the Sun Valley area. I probably spend over 20 plus day singletrack riding dirt bikes in that area in the summer. Idaho has more single track dirt bike trails than any state in the Union. It's not even close, there trail system up there is absolutely unbelievable. You could ride your e-bike up there on the single track motorcycle trails for the rest of your life and not even touch what's available. So I find it interesting this is the one area that is starting to look at allowing E bikes on their mountain bike trails. I eventually see the F.S. and BLM designating certain areas that are non motorized e-bike friendly. I don't ever see it for example happening on the Wasatch Front (Crest etc) but I'll bet you see it happening like in the Logan District area Etc. Same with Moab, they'll pick areas like klondike bluffs but not the amaza back area where it is slower flow and more techical.
https://sunvalleymag.com/articles/th...e-backcountry/
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Zoom in and look at that map it's insane. Idaho is the absolute last place I would think would be looking at allowing e-bikes. Unless you look at it that they're so motorcycle friendly they are already in that mindset.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8161602303.jpg
That map is just west of Sun Valley. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c38ed20b2e.jpg
I put 5,000 miles on a Ktm 300 since 15 and most of that has been in Idaho and the desert of Utah.
This^^
I have no problems with ebikes, but they should be looked at as a separate user group from mountain bikes. A ton of hikers and horse people already hate mountain bikers and fight to get us booted from trails. Adding a motor and making bikes even faster is gonna piss them off even more, and could lead to more lost trails to bikes.
I thought the first crack in the armor was when the major bike manufacturers started getting on board and making ebikes. They bring ebikes to demo at all of the major bike race events.
None of the reasons to ban ebikes make any sense, by the way. Too fast? Where, on the climb? So now we will ban any cross country biker weighing 120 lbs and is in great shape, because they can climb fast? How fast, exactly? Or are we banning a class of bike based purely on hypotheticals and not actual experience?
We can't possibly mean they are going too fast on the downhill. Anybody who suggests this, does not have any experience on an ebike. They all have governors that stop. I've gone much faster downhill on my regular bike.
When did politics ever have to make sense?!? And make no mistake, ebikes are a hot political issue. My major concern is that ebikes will be used by the hardcore forest fairies and rock lickers as a weapon to ban all mechanized vehicles.
The problem as I see it is there are two very clear lines that can be drawn at the moment. No mechanized vehicles and no motorized vehicles. Ebikes are trying to elbow their way into the mechanized vehicle group to gain more access, this will result in some trail closes to MTB's over the long haul, exactly how much will be closed is debatable, but if MTB's push ebikes into the motorized vehicle category they can't be used as a weapon to close trails, which to me makes the choice of where I drawn the line simple.
YMMV
He said when they get closer to a decision he will send me another email.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8d730ccb9c.jpg
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Some beach is completely correct as far as going downhill. The assist kicks out at 18 miles an hour and due to the weight of the bike and the extra pedal force of having to turn the drivetrain without any assist you can't go nearly as quick as you can go on a normal mountain bike.
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So long as ebikes remain classed as motorized vehicles by the BLM I'm good, at least from a MTB prospective.