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July 15, 1993. Two scout leaders die descending Kolob in high flow.
http://climb-utah.com/Zion/kolob1.htm
Oh, the Choprock drownings too.
April 19, 2005
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...hoprock-Canyon
A person died in a flashflood in Quandary Canyon. I think May 1998. As far as I know it never made the news or was publicised.
Also:
September 17 1965: 5 deaths in the Zion Narrows due to flash flood
September 5 1998: 1 death of a 10 year old girl Ice Cream Canyon due to flash flood
May 13 2001: 1 death of 10 year old boy swept off the trail in a flash flood. Canyon Overlook of Pine Creek in Zion. Don't know if you want to list it under the canyoneering deaths.
See also here for more incidences:
http://climb-utah.com/Zion/flash_zion.htm
Thanks Scott!
I'd like limit the list to technical canyoneering adventures. Slips and falls, arch swing stunts and non-tech flash floods aren't that educational.
Stories and names are a must. They make the events more 'real'. I'd be very interested in an article (or personal account), date and name for the Quandary accident.
Good idea Bob for a thread. Perhaps Tom and Shane will do the same thing on their sites. At the very least, having an exhaustive list - will show beginners and remind veterans that you can't assume all is well in Zion land. The point should be to instill *SAFETY* and change the attitude of *just because you can hike, means you can be a canyoneer and get out of any obstacle unprepared*
August 12, 1997 - Flash flood in Antelope Canyon. 11 die, one survives.
Here is a more complete write up with video
http://climb-utah.com/Powell/flash_antelope.htm
April 26th, 2003 - Aron Ralston
Aaron told me this is the most accurate write up he read before his book came out
http://climb-utah.com/Roost/bluejohn2.htm
The book
http://www.amazon.com/127-Hours-Betw...ywords=ralston
Two death's in the Lower Black Box
July 11, 1999 and August 28, 1999
Both are detailed here: http://climb-utah.com/SRS/lbb.htm
There is a nice list (but incomplete) of Utah flash flood death's dating back to 1863
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/projects...ood_deaths.php
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Maybe we should just reserve a spot for the meet-up groups on this list now.
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You have the Mildred Falls fatality in California in 2011 - Matthew Pack, 250+ water rappel - died of mechanical asphyxiation.
I know I know...it's not "Canyoneering" at all according to Bootboy and Scott P - it's just a rappel down a giant waterfall.
And you have another Subway death a few decades back (I can't remember time stamp exactly?) where a guy was rappelling at some location and the anchor blew out and fell like 50 or 60 feet. Something like that. Scott P was the one who told me about that one.
Actually, I haven't been, but I thought Mildred Falls was a canyoneering route?:ne_nau: Doesn't the route follow a canyon? If so, a route that follows a canyon = canyoneering.Quote:
You have the Mildred Falls fatality in California in 2011 - Matthew Pack, 250+ water rappel - died of mechanical asphyxiation.
I know I know...it's not "Canyoneering" at all according to Bootboy and Scott P - it's just a rappel down a giant waterfall.
Official reports say 30 feet. October 10 1992; David Bryant. A small tree he was rapping off pulled out of the ground.Quote:
And you have another Subway death a few decades back (I can't remember time stamp exactly?) where a guy was rappelling at some location and the anchor blew out and fell like 50 or 60 feet.
As far as I know, there never has been an article of any kind on the incident. I don't recall the name of the victim (whom I never met), only the survivor. The survivor was Leslie Clayton whom went on a trip to South America with us.Quote:
Stories and names are a must. They make the events more 'real'. I'd be very interested in an article (or personal account), date and name for the Quandary accident.
I believe the death occurred Memorial Day weekend, 1998, but I don't know which day of the weekend.
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Anyway, Tom's book on Zion also mentions several accidents in Zion.
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I know I know...it's not "Canyoneering" at all according to Bootboy and Scott P - it's just a rappel down a giant waterfall.
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Sensitive much?
Thanks for the shout out anyway...
That is not the point of this thread. I'm building it as a resourse page for those that would like to learn from the mistakes/misfortune of others. People can take from it what they would like. Preachin' ain't welcome in this library. :mrgreen:
Thanks for the links and references, Ice, Scott and Jman. :gents: For any more contributions PLEASE add a link.
"Somthin' happened to someone in Whatchacallit Canyon about 1993ish" is not a good example to learn from, even though it was a canyoneering accident.
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A shout out to @Bo_Beck - because of your vast SAR background, you probably know more about the history of Zion accidents than anyone. Is there a accident report archive online that you are aware of?
Thanks in advance.
Bob
Im too lazy too look up a link to it, but there was the accident in Insomnia, 2 years ago I think, where the guy lost control on the 320' rap and fell. Not fatal, but it shold have been!
Mr Lazy Adam, :haha:
THAT is good one to learn from, I'll dig it up. Thanks!
Interesting @Slot Machine . You and I must be on the same wavelength. I thought about trying to compile an accident timeline from just 2013. There seems to be quite a few from this year alone. At lease a dozen posted on bogley alone. That thread would be interesting as well if someone wants to take a crack at it. "2013 Accidents" or something...
Acca,
Hmmm... yeah, this year has been inspiring. I'm just trying to compile accident reports that people can learn from.
There isn't much to be learned from someone slipping and falling off a cliff, but, stay on the cliff.
A broken ankle thread would teach zero lessons. See what I'm saying?
I gotcha. You are going for a higher level of fubars. Maybe a "2013 Rescues" thread would be more appropriate? I believe those can educate too.
Respectfully, I disagree.
A broken ankle in The Subway that requires rescue teaches nothing. That could happen to anyone. However, my brother-in-law getting out of Sandthrax after falling from the crux teaches many lessons.
That fall would have crippled or killed a fair percentage of people. I should include that...
I just figured it would be interesting to see a timeline of the rescues this year, regardless if it teaches or not. There seems to be more than previous years. I could be wrong about that. Anyway, carry on!
Here is the Bogley thread for the Insomnia rescue if you would like to add it to the link to the article:
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...reek-Canyon-AZ