Originally Posted by ratagonia
Couple a thoughts:
1. Yes, you have to "jump" over the edge in some manner. A standard problem. Easier if you have or can make a third rope grab, for instance, by throwing a quick bachman knot on the rope above the edge.
2. It can help to get your body as high as possible, so you can reach easily over the edge. For instance, you may need to step higher in your foot loop (if your rig allows).
3. If you plan on jugging out, hang a foot loop below the lip (from the anchor. When the jugger gets to the lip, they can step over in the foot loop, taking the weight off the rope, then get their jugs over the edge and continue upward.
4. Instead of a 3rd rope grab, can tie a "chicken loop" just below the lower rope grab, clip into the harness (locking biner), then use one of the two primary rope grabs. You will need a foot loop on both working rope grabs, most likely, rather than the "canyoneer's setup" with one footloop and one direct to the harness, at least when you are above the lip.
Tom :moses: