Doing Mystery Canyon in May - some questions about ropes
Hey,
I'm doing Zion's Mystery Canyon in May, and I'm trying to figure out what length of rope to buy. I checked a couple of guides, and they list the longest rappel as between 110' and 135', and they aren't clear if that includes the height of the rappel and the distance the to anchors, or if it's just the rappel length.
So how long of a rope do I need?
Also, I know people often bring a shorter rope for the shorter rappels. Any suggestions how what a handy length for that is?
-AG
Re: Doing Mystery Canyon in May - some questions about ropes
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Originally Posted by ag23
Hey,
I'm doing Zion's Mystery Canyon in May, and I'm trying to figure out what length of rope to buy. I checked a couple of guides, and they list the longest rappel as between 110' and 135', and they aren't clear if that includes the height of the rappel and the distance the to anchors, or if it's just the rappel length.
So how long of a rope do I need?
Last rappel is the longest at 120 feet. So, you'd need two 120's. Or, 120 for rappelling and 120 for a pull cord.
Easiest is to just carry two 50 or 60m ropes, and, use one doubled for the shorter rappels.
I'd be more worried about water levels in the Narrows in May...you might not get a permit? Could be really high flow by that time....
Cheers,
-Brian in SLC
Re: Doing Mystery Canyon in May - some questions about ropes
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Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
Last rappel is the longest at 120 feet. So, you'd need two 120's. Or, 120 for rappelling and 120 for a pull cord.
I can verify everything Brian told ya. 115' is the actual length of the max rappel so 120' ropes give you plenty of extra for knot tying and stuff.
And FWIW: I've actually measured the rappels in Mystery. Mystery Springs (second to last) is 115', Zion Narrows (last) is 115'. All other rappels are 50' or less.
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Re: Doing Mystery Canyon in May - some questions about ropes
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Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
I'd be more worried about water levels in the Narrows in May...you might not get a permit? Could be really high flow by that time....
I'm guessing there's probably less than a 5% chance of getting a permit by the end of May. Earlier in May? 0.000001%
"It would take a miracle." - Miracle Max
Good luck, though, the canyon's a beauty! (I've got a reservation for May 23 - hope it works out!)
Re: Doing Mystery Canyon in May - some questions about ropes
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Originally Posted by Cirrus2000
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Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
I'd be more worried about water levels in the Narrows in May...you might not get a permit? Could be really high flow by that time....
I'm guessing there's probably less than a 5% chance of getting a permit by the end of May. Earlier in May? 0.000001%
"It would take a miracle." - Miracle Max
Good luck, though, the canyon's a beauty! (I've got a reservation for May 23 - hope it works out!)
5%? Really? ouch. I checked out of the average flow rate records and figured I had a better then 50/50 chance. Has it been a heavy snow year?
I have mine for the 27th, so lets for a early spring.
Re: Doing Mystery Canyon in May - some questions about ropes
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Originally Posted by ag23
5%? Really? ouch. I checked out of the average flow rate records and figured I had a better then 50/50 chance. Has it been a heavy snow year?
I have mine for the 27th, so lets for a early spring.
Some info reading: http://www.bogley.com/forum/viewtopi...=20434&start=0
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