I need to buy a front tire. I thought that there was a thread in here with this information but I can't find it. Looking for advise and a possible explantion for a newby with a front tire that suddenly has the side knobs torn off.
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I need to buy a front tire. I thought that there was a thread in here with this information but I can't find it. Looking for advise and a possible explantion for a newby with a front tire that suddenly has the side knobs torn off.
Front tires are a bit of a problem for me. When I find one that hooks up well it starts to chunck off in the rocks and if I find one that works well for the rocky desert it tends to wash out on me.
I think for myself that I would rather find one that is a bit softer and replace as needed than try the harder style front tires. Seems to wear out faster but!!!!!!!! your talking stearing here.
And they are a bit cheaper than rear tires. Just my 2 cents worth.
Example A: Dunlop mx 51 front or something in that area.
I run a Maxxis Desert IT on the front of my big heavy XR and love it but it does not seem to work as well on my YZ . Go figure.
Now- I am no expert that is for dam sure but With my 450 I like a hard tire on back with a little bit softer tire up front. I do like any pattern that staggers itself on the edges as well.
You will not find this in a DOt tire to offten. But dont get a Dunlop 606 up front ever. I have had great success with them in the rear but the front washes big time.
If you don't believe me I'll give you a brand new one to check for yourself.LMAO
And as much as I like the 606 on the rear it only works with the 18" tires saddly. I can't find them in 19".
Now you kept the green machine right? And the over all weight is under 300lbs? And the tire size by your manual says? like 100/80-21.????
I think it would be a good idea to check Thumper Talk's web site for our area and bike specific/front tire threads.
Dunlop MX51 is my favorite. Derek will argue that all day though, he is all about the Maxxis.
My newer bike came with the Dunlop and after I let down the 35 lbs the dealer had put in, it works great :cool2:
Thanks for the feedback so far now I am interested in what garbanzo has to say prefferably in a non dot tire since he buys tires every other week.:D
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Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. Jarrod and I spent two years with each of us using every tire we could find. I bought some bridgestones, he got some Maxxis, then we switched. I then got some dunlops and he got some others. Essentially for desert riding we found that the MX71 is the best. The MX51 will waste away too quickly. The Maxxis Desert IT tire is great but doesn't quite have the hook-up the MX71 has, especially as a front tire.
My advice is to get the Dunlop MX71 with the Maxxis Desert IT as a close second for the rear. I will say this though, the Bridgestone M604 was and still is the best front tire available. Period.
Mid to Hard Terrain and as cheap as you can find with a decent tread.Quote:
Originally Posted by REDFOX
Nelson has some good tire suggestions. I run the Michelin M12 on the rear and they are $61.99 at Rocky Mtn.
As far as a front, I am running a Pirelli Scorpion XCMH and like it as well.
Just remember, soft tires hook up but don't last.
Mid to Hard tires don't hook up quite as well but last longer.
I will try the Bridgestone next for my front. On Rocky Mtn it shows only a rear for the M604 and front for the M603. Is the M603 front tire the one you speak of?Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
I run the D606 in back to maintain the DOT rating for the road. They hold up really well and so far have hooked up well. The D606 fronts suck, as stated here before, so this time around I went to the Pirelli Scorpion Pro FIM. I read about it on another site and decided to give it a try. Has been great so far, and seems to be holding up well.
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/...pion-Pro-F.I.M.
Yes. My favorite tires but the 604 just doesn't last that long in the back. But boy does it carve a turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garbanzo
It freaking better:lol8:
I took your advise myself as I have run the gauntlet with all the others.
603 up front but not tested as of yet and a 604 in the rear soon to be mounted. After I burn another 35-40 dollars worth on the last remaining Maxxis desert IT:afro:
I've yet to run Brigdestonenies, Don't stir me wrong bro.:lol8:
They look nice but then again so did everything else.
But the maxxis is still on the front of the BRP and the rear of the YZ and well they may not last as long as a D606 I am happy for the most part.
However the front on this yz has been washing out big time on the old sport D 490 I think it is but with very little wear. Might be a great hard dirt tire but I'm always riding washes when it scares the holy out of me.
But let's face it nobody builds the tire that does it all. So sad too.
I'll try anything once and if it works I'll try it twice but it's not always the same for some reason.
Terrain, Mold etc. But it also maybe marketing. See I've some good ones and some not so good ones and If I try ones that has worked well for me in the past sometimes it is not the same animal in the future.(same brand) It sometimes seems to be just a marketing thing to me. OR maybe just a batch thing.
Or just plain old scam. THe prices don't seem to have any factor in it.
I've had several tires of same brand but different lotment that react completely different than the origanals.
And you can feel the difference just by touch or rather pinch.
Example: I've had three maxximas on and two where very nice but one chunked inside 30 miles or so. PISSED me of big time. You know at the price and all. These were all on my BRP however.
I don't think the rocks were any bigger factor than before or after but it went quick. Noticeably quick.
Seems to me when you get lucky you get lucky.
2 things are for sure:
1: I'll never run a Sadona ever again
2:Perilli sucks ass in the desert PERIOD. They don't even make a hard terrain tire at all. Total pc of well you get my drift.
I do here they make great track closed circiut tires however.
Can't remember the exact tire but it was there IT (PERILLI) and it did not make it 40 miles and 5 more mile it was chuncking like a raped teen. I put a total of about 100 when I had to pull it and still had the little nipps on the right side. SHOT. AND I thought the Sedona was bad? At least it got me 50 miles into NV. and back before it was toast.
But one has to keep in mind the power of the BRP while high speeding the good Desert. YEEE FRIGGIN haw. When 90mph is just not good enough.
THe funny thing is the maxxis on front is holding well and has been for the last six months and this is not an easy bike to slow down fast.
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I have some trusted tires I live by but it all depends on your bike and conditions.
Maxxis IT is great up front and rear.
Dunlop 606 has been the very best on the rear of my 650.
604 is a great on the rear with wet root and dark soil single track.
IRC m5b is soft and works well in mud and SAND.
mx 51 works well and mx 71 even better in desert terrain.
603 is a great front tire
Right now I running a 603 up front and an IRC m5b 130/80 18 that I just love on the rear on my Katoom. Losts of sand, rocks and very little mud but I get that to from time to time if I time it right after the rains.
I have found no better tire for hooking up in the rear than the M5B butt is is costly and wears fast with my style.
Just bought another however. On Sale for $90.99 plus tax Utah :ne_nau:
Remember this. You can get two cheap apples for the price of a good one.
You get what you are willing to pay for in short.
Just don't ever buy a Sadona tire Trust me on this one. One ride at very best and does not hook up at all. $60 dollar tire don't cut it period.....
If money is what your worried about then get some enduro tires. They last good enough and give some traction as well.
I have however heard some good things about a tire that sounds like what mania is talking about.
If this is the same tire my friend that had his own shop was telling me about he swears by them for longivity and he rides a very modded motor wise Honda crf450r.:ne_nau: Claims to get a full season out of them.
I just ride...tires don't matter. :lol8:
Shoot that's what I'm doing wrong:lol8:
All this time I was thinking tires mattered
What a dum ass I am i put tires right up there with breaks and stuff.:D
I think I'm starting to understand how this works.
WHICH DIRT BIKE TIRE TO BUY?
The one that fits:nono:
Sorry REDFOX I know this one was drug up out of the grave and all.
Hope you're doing well and getting tired of the snow.
We have some more fun trails for you so let me know if your in town again and tell Randy to give me a call now his bike is running good.
We are neighbors him and I.
I put quality brakes and tires as a high priority . I with have to call Randy. I have been working too much out of state. It is time to do a ride.
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Quality in tires may work for track racers or desert racers or even GNCC dudes and then there is the tires that work best for Enduro compitition.
Some love enduro tires in moab while others love something that gets around just a bit more.
Soft ,hard ect.
Are we talking front or rear tires, Sand. Rock, or street?
Oh so many options.
I'm a bit of a desert rat but I know what I like in the trees and moist stuff up north like your area.:ne_nau:
Up north I love the Dulop 604's but here in the desert I love the IRC m5B. The 603 up front has served me well enough through most and wears easy enough to adjust with tire pressure but I have tons to learn still myself.
I have know knowledge of true quality tires but I know this: If you by the good stuff the chances of getting a flat with the right tire pressure go down a lot.
Dude don't let me mess with you it's like asking what is the right oil:D
You'll never even get close unless you do your own studies LMAO= time in the ole saddle my friend.
Like my drill srg used to say " may the lightnig strike and life will bite you on the ass" Ride every chance you get cause one day You may be just as old as me.
OK it was more like the Lightning is going to strike and the thunder is going to bite you on the ass.
The thing is you already have a ride that you put time and funds into?
Let's take it to the limit while you still can.
I'm getting old and have been arthritic for over ten years But I will ride with you every chance I get.
If you can't break away from work once in every other weekend, Just how the hell do you hold down a family?
Sorry I know it is none ya to me but I have been there and live does go on. THe kids they grow and graduate in a flash.
It's been a while but I folded and bought the IRC M5B FOR THE rear. This tire hooks better than any tire I have tried and I have gone through the gaunlet with the BRP tire eating machine.
Did not try the IRC till I got my Katoom.
The first 50% of tire life rocks like no other. In fact I was so impressed at the time I bought another.130-80 18 but after this tire is half way gone It just shreddes to death. Now remember I have already bought a second one cause I just love how they hook up. Best sand tire short of a paddle I have ever owned. BUT if you own a big bore bike and live in the desert? You may want to rethink this tire. I can buy three Kenda 720 for the price of one IRC and the first Kenda will still be ticking.
THe Traction will not be the same but the Kenda 720 is also a great DOT tire as well.
I had Perilli's once that hooked up very well but I only got two rides out of them on the XR.
I've had 6 good hard core sand rides with the IRC with plenty of rocks thrown in but unless your rich and racing there are better choices the way I see it.
But then again maybe I just got a bad one. I let you know how the next one works out trust me.
I think that when? i chew up my next IRC that I have already bought.I'm going back to the trusty Nunlop 606 now that I will be gettting some more tar mac into the picture.
Remember, the IRC wants to be flipped at around 50% worn. I got 25 hrs out of one. I'm keeping track of the hrs of the one I'm running now. It's what matters most to you.
I got to about 40% and realized I had so many stress cracks that if I try to turn it around at that point it would just be a waste of time for me.
These are a one direction tire also.
But I'm hoping I just got an old one, seems I have already picked up another for April that needs mounted say monday.:D
Mine always get stress cracks before and after I flip them. It doesn't affect anything. Neither does the directional thing. I get all hookup until they are next to bald.
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Sounds like I need to take a pict before I shit can:lol8:
I'll be right back to on this one bro.
I'm telling you if the knobbies are still on and it just has big cracks at the base of them, that's normal. I thought the same thing with the first one I bought. I thought there was no way it would last. Flipped it and it wore great. They are a weird kind of tire, that's for sure.
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K so this is what I have ran into but remember this tire worked so well at first for me I have already bought another but here is what I am up against right now.
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Think maybe I got a bad batch?
Or is this a sure sign I have no throttle control:roflol:
In a perfect world we would all be roosting in top soil.
They have always hooked up well but if my stabilizer shows up Mon. I will be putting my new IRC tire on at that time and hoping for the best as i get closer to the first week of april:ride:
It looks like you've run it down further than I do before flipping it. The stress cracks are normal but you've got some serious chunking. Quit whiskey throttling on the rocks! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mtnseeker1
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Ya that aint going to happen:bandit:
The throttle is my best friend but costly so the new IRC is already mounted:lol8:
It's only tires and I am not about to get off the gas. I'll just replace with time and trials till I get er figured out:facepalm1:
But I do need to be a bit careful for the next couple of weeks:2thumbs: Then it's on again baby.:roflol:Moab here I come.