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Hey Guys. I need help finding a good backcountry spot to camp within 45 mins of st george tomorrow night.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I do have 4wheel drive so thats not an issue.
One stipulation: There must be trees large enough to support hammocks.
Anything form short backpacking to car camping. All ideas are welcome.
Thanks in advance for your generous help.
I would say "Red Cliffs Recreation area". It costs $3 for entry per car and I think $7 or $10 for camping per night. Vault toilets, clean water, big cottonwood trees, even a small slot canyon within 10min of the trailhead that even contains a waterhole to play in. And it's about 15min away.
Another place is up Oak Grove up towards the Pine Valley mountains. Large pine trees abound. All dirt roads. About a 45min-1hr drive. And it's free.
Another spot, that costs money like $10/night is up around Gunlock reservoir. Great scenery and lots of cottonwoods in that area. But maybe you could find a place for free along the way up there. There are lots of dirt-road paths branching from the main road. About 30-45min away.
Have fun!
Every time I drive by Red Cliffs, the road is blocked by construction equipment resurfacing the road. And the pass under the freeway is roped off with caution signs. Just keep a backup plan just in case. Pine mountain on either side is really nice and large pine tree like ya want though. I know Dave (theking) who posts in the mtn bike forum, has camped in a hammock in that very area. He had a nice setup going when I visited him. but Red Cliffs is definitely closer, so I would try that first for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by jman
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Jman you must drive like a grandma :lol8: I would vote oak grove, there could be a spot for a hammock at the end. It takes me about 30 min to get there and about 40 min to get to pine valley which is about 36 miles.
You don't need a hammock if you can find a nice sandy spot.
Red cliffs is a great spot and my first choice although I think its still closed. You can camp many places on the way up to oak grove I can think of several places that you can have a hammock along the way. Mosquito cove is on the way to Zion on the right side about a half mile before coalpits wash, Pretty cool little spot but expect to share it with people. There is a place just north of virgin on kolob terrace road that you can camp on the right side that has trees too.
Thanks Everyone for the great suggestions.
It looks like red cliffs is closed right now for repaving or something.
Didn't that place shut down a year ago because everyone dumped their crap in the river?Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTRBD
it was open in February :) been a good quick free place to camp a number of times for me when I was more into backpacking southern utah (and didn't have kids)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rau_Dawg33
Its always open when I drive by, I have been past there 20 times in the last month or so and see people camping there everytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rau_Dawg33
Oak Grove is definitely a great place. With a flowing stream, a few free campsites, and less people, this is my preference.
OK. This is why i asked. http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...to-Cove-ClosedQuote:
Originally Posted by DSTRBD
Oak Grove is where we'll probably end up. I was just there yesterday doing some bouldering. Driven through several times and always wanted to stop and check those boulders.
For the most part the stone just sucks. But we did find a few really classic hard lines.
I have camped back in Pine Valley before. May go back. Still not really sure.
yea, if red cliffs is temporarily closed. I personally would skip Mosquito cove, and head to Oak Grove. Mosquito cove is too noisy (usually mexican music till midnight), hot, usually tent & RV city in that crowded area...and lack of bathrooms on a floodplain.
If you head about 15min pass Oak Grove, you will hit some a big pullout (near the turkey farms) which have a nice running stream, lots of trees, grass, and hardly anyone up there. And it would be a LOT cooler up by Oak Grove than anyone near Zion, which always adds to a better sleep, for me anyways.
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Originally Posted by DSTRBD
I think it's open again. I was there two weeks ago. Maybe it was only temporarily open.
According to the BLM:Quote:
Originally Posted by mtthwlw
"Temporary Closure ofRed Cliffs Recreation Area for Road Repaving
Beginning June 1, 2010 the St. George BLM Field Office will temporarily close the Red Cliffs Recreation Area to all public use for 60 days while the access road to the area is repaved. The Recreation Area located approximately 15 miles north of St. George, Utah includes a developed campground, day use areas, hiking trails and other visitor amenities. The access road to the Recreation Area will be completely resurfaced and the road shoulders widened, improving the safety of the road for visitor travel when the project is completed. As the existing road paving must be removed, and heavy equipment will be in operation throughout this project, the access road to the Recreation Area will be closed to all public travel from its intersection with old Highway 91. This project is being funded through the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (ARRA)."
I would like to go there but unless anyone solid knowledge of whether it is open or not i will just wait and do it in another trip.
Haha... I just did the math. So it should be open then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rau_Dawg33
I think we'll head that way and Oak Grove will be Plan B.
Thanks again for all the help.
Sorry Im a little late but the Red Butte Wilderness Area is pretty cool.
Is that by Zion? I think i've heard of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattandersao
One more ?
Does anyone know if Dogs are allowed in the Red Cliffs?
Hey Jman, I thought oak grove was a pay campground? Or are you talking about camping in the pullout/side roads on the way there...I'm all for free camping, esp. if there's water/toilets nearby.Quote:
Originally Posted by jman
Yes, at least I have had my dogs there many times, its a state park so there should not be any issue. Ill go by there tomorrow and see if its open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rau_Dawg33
state or BLM?Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTRBD
http://www.blm.gov/ut/st/en/fo/st__g...ampground.html
I know snow canyon is state.
My bad, I just assumed It was state.Quote:
Originally Posted by trackrunner
I know it's already too late for this trip, but I still wanted to suggest Kolob Reservoir for a future trip. I camped up there last weekend and though the wind was a bit much we still had an amazing time. Its a bit further than 45min but not by much, and the drive up is spectacular. It's by far the best camping I've found in the area (so far) and who can argue with free camping that is right on the water? Anyway, hope you had a great time wherever you ended up!
Was going to post some links but I'm not allowed yet since I'm new here..
Thanks for the tip. Kolob would be a great place to camp. Next time definitely.
We ended up going to Red Cliffs. Had a lot of fun. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.
Its off of Kolob Terrace road (so yes it is by Zion, but not the main canyon) you would turn off on a dirt road right before the Hop Valley trailhead. I was there today it was nice!