Fallen arch

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08-06-2008, 09:21 AM
slickrocker

Fallen arch

I heard this morning that Wall Arch along the Devil's Garden Trail in Arches NP has collapsed. I may try and get up there tommorrow morning to check it out and maybe get a photo.
I don't know when this happened but it hasn't shown up on the NPS Morning Report yet, so it must have been pretty recent.
08-06-2008, 12:18 PM
R

Re: Fallen arch

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Originally Posted by slickrocker

I heard this morning that Wall Arch along the Devil's Garden Trail in Arches NP has collapsed. I may try and get up there tommorrow morning to check it out and maybe get a photo.
I don't know when this happened but it hasn't shown up on the NPS Morning Report yet, so it must have been pretty recent.

Wow. If this is true, that's kind of amazing. NOT the next arch I expected to fall in Arches. -R
08-06-2008, 01:24 PM
sparker1

That would be a great shame.
08-06-2008, 03:30 PM
accadacca

Wow let us know what you find out!
08-06-2008, 09:39 PM
brettyb

I saw a report on the subject on TripAdvisor:

Wall Arch Collapse

Not sure how credible it is, but the NPS Morning Report will surely have a writeup soon if the story is legit.
08-07-2008, 06:57 AM
slickrocker

I went out to Arches VC today and Wall Arch has indeed fallen but the trail is now closed. They were letting people crawl over the rubble Tues. and Wed. but this morning work crews are up there reworking the trail and it's closed off indefinately.
08-07-2008, 09:20 AM
Cirrus2000

http://kev.cirruswebsolutions.ca/pho...7/IMG_1951.JPG

Not the first I expected to fall, either, Richard. But looking at the wiggliness, you can definitely see how it could be unstable...

Thanks for the report, slickrocker!
08-07-2008, 11:35 AM
denaliguide

will it be called "fallen arches nat. park" in the future? :ne_nau:
08-07-2008, 11:43 AM
sparker1

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will it be called "fallen arches nat. park" in the future? :ne_nau:

So many of us with taste declined that obvious opportunity. :naughty:
08-07-2008, 11:44 AM
Cirrus2000

Personally, lacking in taste:

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Originally Posted by denaliguide

will it be called "fallen arches nat. park" in the future? :ne_nau:

Just one of those things that happens as we age, I guess. I wonder what will happen to, say, The Organ as it ages. :popcorn:

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08-07-2008, 11:47 AM
sparker1

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Here is a photo of Wall Arch. Are those just surface cracks, or what brought it down?
08-07-2008, 11:51 AM
JP

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Originally Posted by sparker1

what brought it down?

Gravity :lol8:
08-07-2008, 11:58 AM
denaliguide

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Originally Posted by sparker1

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Originally Posted by denaliguide

will it be called "fallen arches nat. park" in the future? :ne_nau:

So many of us with taste declined that obvious opportunity. :naughty:

now that would be one thing that has never been used to describe me
08-07-2008, 12:03 PM
R

(This is my 1000th post, by the way.)

Here are two of my images of Wall Arch, made in March 2004. I guess the obvious question is: can we get some "after" photos from somewhere? -R

http://richardbarron.net/confluence/...lsgarden15.jpg http://richardbarron.net/confluence/...lsgarden16.jpg
08-07-2008, 12:37 PM
slickrocker

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Here's Wall Arch from above. Once that section of trail is opened again I'll go get some photos, unless some appear from another source.
We've had some rain and high humidity the last few days, could be the last few grains holding it together expanded, eroded, etc. The straw that broke the camels back and all that.
08-08-2008, 04:37 PM
trackrunner

Well the news media finally got around to reporting it
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=3967228

Iconic arch collapses in southern Utah
August 8th, 2008 @ 4:24pm
Photo courtesy Realtravel.com

ARCHES NATIONAL PARK, Utah (AP) -- One of the largest and most visible arches in Arches National Park has collapsed.

Paul Henderson, the park's chief of interpretation, says Wall Arch collapsed sometime late Monday or early Tuesday.

The arch is along Devils Garden Trail, one of the most popular in the park.

The arch, first reported and named in 1948, was more than 33 feet tall and 71 feet across. It ranked 12th in size of the park's estimated 2,000 arches.

Henderson says it's the first collapse of a major arch in the park since Landscape Arch fell in 1991.

No one was injured in the collapse. The trail remains closed just beyond the ruins of Landscape Arch.
08-08-2008, 04:41 PM
trackrunner

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Henderson says it's the first collapse of a major arch in the park since Landscape Arch fell in 1991.

What????????????????????? Landscape Arch fell in 1991. Who they hell glued it back together leaving three large pieces off for my 2003 trip.

:lol8: :roflol:
08-08-2008, 04:52 PM
theking648

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Originally Posted by JP

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Originally Posted by sparker1

what brought it down?

Gravity :lol8:

Nice... :lol8:

that realy sucks i haven't made it out east yet to see arches.
08-08-2008, 05:21 PM
R

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Originally Posted by trackrunner

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Originally Posted by trackrunner

Henderson says it's the first collapse of a major arch in the park since Landscape Arch fell in 1991.

What????????????????????? Landscape Arch fell in 1991. Who they hell glued it back together leaving three large pieces off for my 2003 trip.

:lol8: :roflol:

TV media usually doesn't have a clue. Probably did a 90-second phone interview while eating a burrito.
08-08-2008, 05:43 PM
theking648

I think most people.. me included would have thought that Landscape Arch would have fell way before the others.
08-09-2008, 09:37 AM
trackrunner

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Originally Posted by theking648

I think most people.. me included would have thought that Landscape Arch would have fell way before the others.

Yes I thought the same. I understand that some geologist now think after the 1991 partial collapse that Landscape are is more stable not less stable as originaly thought. Hence it hasn't collapsed.
08-09-2008, 09:47 AM
blueeyes

I read about it early this morning on KSL here is the link with before and after pic.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=3967228

Chere'
08-09-2008, 10:10 AM
DiscGo

That sucks! Still a great trail
08-10-2008, 08:30 AM
snatch

it even made a national headline

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/10/arc....ap/index.html
08-10-2008, 09:23 AM
stefan

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Originally Posted by theking648

I think most people.. me included would have thought that Landscape Arch would have fell way before the others.

in the words of darth vader ...

your lack of faith disturbs me.

:haha:
08-10-2008, 10:09 AM
R

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Originally Posted by DiscGo

That sucks! Still a great trail

I recall that the trail is deep between fins at that point. The last time I was there was the day after we got married. Abby and I will think about hiking back there in October to see how it ends up being routed. -R
08-10-2008, 02:14 PM
sparker1

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Found this "Before and After" on another site.
08-10-2008, 04:49 PM
Scott P

I've been there several times. Here was my last trip and a photo taken December 10 2006:

http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/250922.jpg
08-12-2008, 10:58 PM
accadacca

Ah this sucks.
09-15-2008, 07:28 AM
R

What ended up being the final outcome on this? Is the Devil's Garden Trail open again, and/or did they move the trail at all? -Richard
09-16-2008, 07:53 AM
slickrocker

The Devils Garden Trail is open. I haven't gotten up there yet but the Ranger at the VC showed me a photo array of the new section which bypassaes the rubble that was Wall Arch by ascending a fin to the left. As you come down off of the fin you rejoin the old trail.