UUtah becomes Bogley

UUtah becomes Bogley - (bo-glee)

Friends,

Over the past 3 years UUtah has become the best place to get outdoor information in Utah. We have all experienced this; a user posts a question on the site and usually within an hour or so the question is answered. Not just a quick answer, but many suggestions and options are given. Often a lengthy discussion ensues and considerations for anything related to the question are listed and discussed further. In the end the question is answered far beyond the requesters expectations. It has been and continues to be a team effort. This website has so many friendly, knowledgeable, helpful and don't forget very witty characters. I really could ramble about each of you and how you help this process. But let me cut to the chase and leave out the kleenexes.

UUtah has grown from a small site among friends, to friends of friends, to an outdoor social networking site where information is freely shared and spread to a much larger audience. In order for the site to grow, the name "uutah" is not going to work beyond Utah and it doesn't work the best in Utah either. Here are a few reasons why:
[list][*]Many people confuse the name with the University of Utah.[*]10 of 30 top members & moderators are from outside of Utah and there are countless others registered from out of state.[*]The name "uutah" discourages out of state people from joining the forum.[*]Our members who vacation or live outside of Utah don't feel comfortable sharing their experiences on the forum. Members often say, "I know that this isn't in Utah but. . ."[*]The community can

Ah dats Kule

Looks like some very positive changes and growth are coming. GO FOR IT.

MTpockets

Great change guys! It gives me the warm fuzzies to have the name feel more welcoming to all. Thanks for thinking of this!

Dang.... and I was just about to post all the pictures from the uUtah wet t-shirt contest.... guess we'll need a redo in Bogley t-shirts.

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They are reputed to live for the simple purpose of torturing young children

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If this is involved, then I'm all over it. :twisted: Home is people, not an address. So long as you don't name the site bunnyhuggers.com then I'll keep coming back for more. :haha: :2thumbs:

Great job!!!

Looking forward to the changes. Are there going to be new t-shirts and bumper stickers and any other kind of swag? Now that i've relocated to Vernal i'll try to make a better effort in my contributions.
Jim

CONGRATS ! Sounds like some progressive changes for you guys. Way to go!

Nothing wrong with UUTAH to me but I definetly know what you are talking about.
Let me know if you need a Great Lakes Rep. :2thumbs:

GOOD LUCK DOWN THAT WEB ROAD!

Andy
Beatthetrain.com

Good decision guys. Gld to see the ole place growing :2thumbs:

Keep up the good work guys, I really like the new name & logo. :2thumbs:

I just got this error while trying to post

DITTO!!!

My post wnt through but I got the error message also.

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Originally Posted by davis_b_1

I just got this error while trying to post

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We've selected a couple of members in whom we've become very annoyed with their content. Our plan is working. :lol8:

Thanks for the positive feedback from everyone. We realized among all of the small improvements to come, this name change would be the big obstacle to start it off. We can all realize that no matter how good a plan is, there will always be somebody who doesn't like it.

The format will stay pretty much the same, except for little modifications that are long overdue; such as, the way photos are attached and uploaded, things like that.

For those of you who are worried about our small "Utah" community disappearing, not to worry. This is already a site with quite a few "non Utahns" posting valuable content and feedback, and that's exactly the way it will stay.

We just won't be discouraging new members with the Utah based name. Thanks again everybody, and to those of you who aren't quite as optimistic about this change, I'd like to address your concerns. :afro:

Nice changes fellas. With my impending move to Washington State, I hope to draw some fellow local citizens to help me find new areas to ride, hike and otherwise explore the great Pacific North West.

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Originally Posted by Iceaxe

DITTO!!!

My post went through but I got the error message also.

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The server has been working on sending out all the Bogley email announcements to nearly 12000 users today. This is causing a few minor hiccups. I usually do it in the middle of the night.

Anyway, thanks to everyone for all the kind words so far. :2thumbs:

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Originally Posted by accadacca

Anyway, thanks to everyone for all the kind words so far. :2thumbs:

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Ginger and I say Cheers!

Any changes planned for the fishing section?

...Just wondering.

OK, call me the naysayer, the doubter, the troublemaker, I'm not sure what word might fit best here. I dont do well with change, particularly when it's something I'm accustomed to and I like a lot. :-) I gotta admit that I like that this site has a primarily Utahn focus and am concerned that it will become a general outdoor site. Most of the out of state posters are people who vacation and recreate here so the info stays in the Utahn realm. Of course there are some posts that take us out of state and I enjoy them, but I can envision with thousands more posters from out of state that there will be so many posts to weed through to find info on Utah now. For example, if I want to find a great hike somewhere in Utah, will I have to go through 50 posts from 50 different states to find one here? Just wondering what you are envisioning with such a great influx of out of staters. Will there be a separate forum for out of state info? If UUtah becomes a generic, country-wide outdoor forum format which is kind of what I'm hearing), I see something much different than what we have now. I could be wrong - can you clarify your vision for me? Thanks.

As far as the logo, I think the Bogley idea is pretty cool, although I think it's a stretch from the outdoors. The little creature is creepy and I dont see anything in that logo that might suggest this is an outdoor site. I suppose that doesnt really matter, as it will become clearly apparent when people log on, but it's a little weird. (sorry, my opinion)

ANYWAY, I am not at all trying to be critical, just letting you know my initial reaction to it all. I'm sure I'll settle into it and it will be great. I must say that I truly appreciate that you have a vision and you go for it, not many people do that. It takes a lot of dedication and hard work to put together something so great, like this site. You guys do an awesome job and it is appreciated by many, like me, who simple reap the beneifits of your hard work. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by TreeHugger

but I can envision with thousands more posters from out of state that there will be so many posts to weed through to find info on Utah now. For example, if I want to find a great hike somewhere in Utah, will I have to go through 50 posts from 50 different states to find one here?

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Your concern is likely shared by other people, and this is a major topic acca and I have worked on in these past several months.

We expect Utah and the western region to be the focus of the forum for quite a while longer. But we've also come up with a couple of alternatives if the site does grow larger than expected (geographically) that would let us filter the content that we aren't interested in.

Our close community that we've developed is VERY important to us, even with a great number of us who actually live outside of Utah, but visit often. But we really don't expect this to happen anytime soon. It's just good to change the name really.

We appreciate your feedback, and I want to let you know that we've spent a great deal of time focusing on this very subject. :cool2:

The name change doesn't bother me.... I was never fond of the name uutah....

As for the rest we'll just have to see.... being Utah centered is/was probably the forums biggest strength. But I also see it as a weakness depending on where you plan to go. I would hate to see this forum turn into just anther generic outdoor forum.

Expanding to western states is probably cool with me.... but I really have no interest in hiking the AT or gator hunting in Florida. Have to see where things head....

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And what's up with not being able to log in with my current username and password on the new site?

Maybe it's just me.

Thanks for the feedback Tree. Glad you like the site, we like you too. On the subject of more content, more members and having to sift through it all. Well, this is a problem that we would love to have. However, it will take quite some time to for these types of things to occur.

As beech mentioned, we discussed this long before we even decided on a name. As I recall, he and I discussed it extensively during a trip to Moab back in October. Here is how it would shake out. Each forum section would have some sorting options. If you wanted to see everything, you would just browse like you normally would. But there would also be pulldown menus so you could drill down. We also talked about putting some check boxes in your profiles, so you could check just areas that you are interested in. The site would then only show you content from those areas. These are some preliminary ideas. Honestly the site will take its own shape and forecasting this can be difficult. Thanks again for the feedback.

LOAH, you should be able to login to bogley.com without problems. Try it again and PM me if you are having issues.

I guess I'm with the naysayers... there are plenty of outdoor related national forums... none I choose to be a member for a simple reason... Frankly I don't care to read about anything outside of Utah. Call me an elitist ass-hole, I'll agree.

Yeah, yeah I know I can filter, search localized forums, etc... but I'm a "New Posts" freak, I don't want to have to sort through a bunch of things that have nothing to do with Utah. I've left other forums that have "expanded", I don't like having to log in to 12 pages of new posts, by the time I'm done sorting through the ones I care to read there are several new pages.

Is Bogley a bad thing? Obviously not, your in the market to "go big", its all about going corporate... if your notions are otherwise I appologize, but if the money isn't bettier (ie. advertising, membership subs, etc), then why change it? You can't be the Walmart, and the Kirkhams too ;)

Another forum will step up and fill the void IMO, you'll likely find me there...

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We also talked about putting some check boxes in your profiles, so you could check just areas that you are interested in. The site would then only show you content from those areas.

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As I stated above, you could select in your profile to only see only Utah content if your that ignorant. j/k :haha:

It is not about becoming "corporate" or whatever. It is about making more friends. . .

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Originally Posted by ExpUt

Yeah, yeah I know I can filter, search localized forums, etc... but I'm a "New Posts" freak, I don't want to have to sort through a bunch of things that have nothing to do with Utah. I've left other forums that have "expanded", I don't like having to log in to 12 pages of new posts, by the time I'm done sorting through the ones I care to read there are several new pages.

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I'm with you there. I'm not interested in Bike trails in Oklahoma. What we mean by filter is it will be something you can set on your profile if you want to see only certain geographical topics. You won't see "Dock fishing in Florida" if it's posted.

On the other hand, I imagine Bogley.com will stay just like it is for a long time. Don't expect a flood of non relevant material to start pouring in, as this is only a name change right now, so this filter stuff may never even be relevant.

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Originally Posted by Sombeech

Don't expect a flood of non relevant material to start pouring in, as this is only a name change right now, so this filter stuff may never even be relevant.

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Ha ha you forgot about me, didn't ya.....
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Originally Posted by JamisJockey

Ha ha you forgot about me, didn't ya.....
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It's good to hear from you, ya piece of cow pie. :cool2:

I just did some research, and of our top 300 posters, 52 of them are from outside of Utah.
(unless there are more that don't say so in their profile)

When we were wondering if this name change would dilute the close Utah base, we started to realize that many of our valued members are already non Utahns. Prior to this though, we never confirmed how many.

I hope this shows how things will stay the same for quite a while even if we drop the Utah based forum name.

First, beech and acca you have done and are doing an awesome job with uutah. Second, for what it is worth I agree with your decision to rebrand the site. It's not easy to go down that road, but the payoff can be great. Third, everyone has to remember at the end of the day what makes uutah, bogley or what ever it is called, great, is YOU, your life, your ideas, your experiences, etc. Its a big world out there and you never know where one may end up. So BOGLEY on :2thumbs: Keep sharing, keep living :rockon:

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Originally Posted by accadacca

As I stated above, you could select in your profile to only see only Utah content if your that ignorant. j/k :haha:

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No need to be kidding, I'm not... I am ignorant when it comes to traveling outside of Utah. Though I have spent alot of time in traveling, when it comes time for me to plan an outdoor related trip, I have zero interest in leaving the state. Each time I go somewhere new, I find 10 more places I would like to come back and visit. At this rate I'll be ready for destinations outside the state in 2050 :2thumbs:

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Originally Posted by accadacca

It is not about becoming "corporate" or whatever. It is about making more friends. . .

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Cool and all... but I have plenty of freinds... and I don't make a habit of gaining them over the internet :bootyshake: . (I kid, I've actually become close freinds with alot of freinds I've met on forums). I want to learn about Utah, Utah hikes, Utah springs, Utah climbs, Utah trails... Just Utah. :nod:

I too have mixed feelings about the changes. The name change seems counterproductive to me, because what makes this site excellent is the relatively narrow scope, focusing just on Utah. I also have no interest in other topics outside of Utah, and think the forum will lose its most significant quality, and that is a community of people who are all about Utah.

The argument that most of the main contributors are from outside of Utah is pretty silly, IMO. They live out of state, but they are on this forum because they love Utah.

Anyways, not sure what precipitated the changes, and I am curious to see what happens in the long run. To be quite honest, I kinda like what we have here as it is. Getting more members is a good thing. Expanding from just a Utah based site is not. I think changing the name will also drive people away, because the forum is no longer branded as a Utah forum, but some new obscure thing. I think the uutah name, though a little confusing in it's own right, has pretty decent name recognition. Bogley? A little too strange for me.

Anywho, just my two cents, not sure they are even worth that...

OK, I couldn't agree more that UTAH is a great place to play, live and work ( notice the order ). Infact after sleeping most of the day saturday from the jet lag of 20 hours in the air, my wife and I went skiing today for a couple of hours in the greatest snow on earth. Since Nov of last year when I started my new job I have been doing nothing but traveling and I can't think of a better place to come home to than UTAH. What about anybody form UUTAH that live in Utah and go, say biking in the pacific northwest, or skiing in alaska or white water on the colorado. is that not part of UUTAH. Or some one from Arizona, Oregon or Florida that comes to UTAH to enjoy any of the many wonderful things our home has to offer, are they not part of UUTAH. It's all about community. Its about the people and the love of life and the outdoors. It is what we make of it. It's not the name, IT IS THE PEOPLE. That's what makes this forum great. I am getting of my soap box now. :rockon:

boo :nono:

double boo

My $.02

I was invited back as a Utah escapee. I'll rarely be posting about Utah anymore, I'm 2200 miles away now.
I doubt you're going to be inundated with non utah reports, except for by me.
One idea would be to combine some of the lesser used subforums. For instance, the motor sports ones (motorcycle, 4x4, and ATV) could be combined. Some of the other ones could be combined up as well.
Then, add subforums for out of state chatter and reports.
You'd probably have less boards to go through, and the snooty patooty's wouldn't have to complain about non utah postings.
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Originally Posted by price1869

boo :nono:

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Thanks for the support. It means a lot coming for a guy that has posted twice in the the last four months. :flipa:

I visit about 6 forums on a regular basis and the only reason I come to this forum is because its Utah focused.
Do you guys think that our out of state people come her to get more information for their future trips to Utah?

I rarely post, but do stop in for the newest info occasionally. I'm not sure I understand the concept of changing to Bogley? Is it to stimulate participation from those from out of state? If so, what does the Title "Bogley" have to do with that stimulous? Is it some sort of targeting strategy? Forgive me for my "internet website naievity"!

I like it :2thumbs:
I dont think a name change can take this forum away from Utah, Canyoneering is the most active section and Utah has the best, Mountainbiking next and Utah rules, best snow/ski, best 4x4, best hiking, etc... I suppose i am a biased utah native :haha: I would welcome reports and pictures from anywhere but Utah still owns most of the topics in this forum. :cool2:

Why not just make a site for each state? Or make bogley its own site and leave UUTAH. I am guessing that everyone that lives out of state posts here because they visit or want to visit Utah at some point, with the exception of JamisJockey. :haha:

I am with tree, summit and others in the hesitation to make it national. Of course my opinion isn't worth much. Will people still be posting their favorite canyon, hike, hotspring, etc still? I like to post the things that I do because everyone has treated me like a friend and I feel like I want to share my secret spot or awesome trip with my friends. If it is just a huge amount of people that I really don't care about I am more hesitant to let the secret out. I feel like this is a tight knit group and we all kindof know each other. I worry about that being lost.

Why do you care about getting info from out of staters that don't visit utah? Mabey the change will grow on me but I feel like it's not for UUTAHNS its for the cash. I know that you guys spend alot of time and money on this site and it only makes sense to get paid for it. I know that thanks don't pay the bills but thanks anyway.