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Check out the NPS site:
https://zionpermits.nps.gov/backcoun...m?TripTypeID=3
What happend??
:ne_nau:
Heaps Canyon:
Heaps Canyon has been closed for the following reason(s):
Condition: Closed due to an investigation.
However, you can continue to make reservations at your own risk.
From a very reliable source.... A rappelling fatality at the final rappel (Emerald Pools) yesterday. More info to come....
Dang, that's very bad news. :sad:
I hate that rappel more then any other. It scares the snot out of me and has been the cause of several nasty accidents.... and the worst part is I'm afraid there will be more.
Not if they close the canyon. :eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Thats the other part I'm afraid might happen.... Judging from the latest backcountry plan canyoneers are not really liked or wanted by Zion management.Quote:
Originally Posted by price1869
Especially concerning since there has already been speculations of that due to the fact that the last rap is into the popular tourist areas of Emerald Pools.
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Any more new of how it happened?
do they rap past the last rap station?
wrong end of the rope?
super sad, 90 meter drop usually does not leave much chance of survival.
my condolence to the family of this poor person.
Remember, those meetings are scheduled for tonight and tomorrow night... Not to take away from the significance of the accident, but it comes at an unfortunate time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I personally hate to be thinking about those kinds of things, given the fact that a family is now forever changed, but the thought did come to mind.
Howcome this didn't make local news? Usually fatalities in ZNP make headline news. :ne_nau:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
I agree... I'm hoping it wasn't truly a fatality, since we haven't heard much. It is possible though, that it happened late last night, so the word is still yet to get out. Let's hope for the best...Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
Pending Investigation Maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
I've had my eye on the news wires but nothing yet....
I'm thinking the news service just has not sniffed it out as of yet. The Spectrum has a reporter who is pretty sharp and usually all over this type of stuff... must be his day off or maybe he has not come back from coffee yet?
:ne_nau:
Ya, I've been searching around too, but nothing has come up about ZNP.
Here's hoping it's NOT a fatality.
Ahhhhhh CRAP! :frustrated: I am supposed to be in Heaps on Friday. I did just get off the phone with the Backcountry Desk and they said it was an "Administrative Closure" but the guy guessed that Heaps would be open by Friday. I hope so. I hate to hear things like this on so many levels. I hope no one is seriously hurt but it doesn't sound good right now. All I know is that if my wife gets a hold of this information I may be banished from Heaps this weekend.
Same here. We're going in on the 30th. If she finds out I might die she'll likely say fine but up your life insurance and leave that cute friend of your's phone number. :lol8:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Card
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol:Quote:
Originally Posted by nelsonccc
You guys are quick to find things out! Bo is in Heaps now and will help with the investigation. He cannot usually say anything until it hits the news or the park issues a memo. He said he will probably be gone about 48 hours.
Just called the Spectrum and they are working on a story. Will be online soon.
The only reason I found out something was amiss is because I tried to get a permit.Quote:
You guys are quick to find things out!
Come on Tanya!, were you born yesterday???? That's why we have this forum here:Quote:
Originally Posted by tanya
http://uutah.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=53
Honestly....
:oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazak
Not good news. Condolences to the family.
Canyoneering fatality at Zion National Park
By PATRICE ST. GERMAIN
patrices@thespectrum.com
ZION NATIONAL PARK
FYI
ZION NATIONAL PARK
http://www.northwashoutfitters.com/advancedcourse.htm
Eek, look at the bottom of the page.....
This really sucks...Quote:
Killed in the accident was Keith Beidermann of Garden Grove, Calif.
My condolences to the family. Sad day. Gratefully, this hardly ever happens in this sport. Be safe out there.
Edit: Wasn't meant to mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazak
Sorry to hear. Condolences to the family.
Price
I hate to say this.... but for the extremely small number of folks participating in this sport the fatality rate seems pretty high to me... barely two years ago we lost two in Choprock. And was it last year one in Behunin...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Card
This is not a forgiving sport.
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I agree. There have been a lot of deaths for such a small sport. If you count the tourist canyons fatilities in Europe and Antelope due to flash floods, the numbers are even higher, but not the ratio.Quote:
I hate to say this.... but for the extremely small number of folks participating in this sport the fatality rate seems pretty high to me... barely two years ago we lost two in Choprock. And was it last year one in Behunin...
Anyway, the news gets worse. This was popular canyons group member desertres group. He request waiting before speculation and rumors start. The post is below.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canyons/message/37647
Sad, very sad.
This is very sad, my condolences to his family. A sad day for all of us that enjoy outdoor Utah.
Win
Hey Price that was a pretty cold comment.
ICE: please elaborate on the death in Behunin. I guess I missed it the first time around. thx.
Sorry to hear this.
a pretty cold comment indeed ... straight up callous.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce from bryce
So I missed by a few years.... it sure doesn't seem like 4 years ago....Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce from bryce
Canyoneering Fatality -Zion NP
NPS Morning Report
September 10, 2003
On Friday, September 5th, Christopher Frankewicz, 37, of Springdale, fell while descending through Behunin Canyon, a rugged canyoneering route that involves route finding, numerous rappels, and normally takes about eight hours. Frankewicz was traveling alone and intended to complete the trip in one day. Friends reported him overdue late Friday evening, and a ground search was begun early on Saturday morning. In late morning, a helicopter joined the search. Frankewicz
DAMN!!! This is not good!
Many, many condolences to his family.
I had planned to do Heaps later this summer.......currently reconsidering.
Press Release
Canyoneering Fatality in Zion National Park
Date: June 5, 2007
Contact: David Eaker, 435-772-7811
Contact: Ron Terry, 435-772-0160
Keith Beidermann, 48, of Garden Grove, California, fell to his death while canyoneering in Heaps Canyon in Zion National Park on Monday evening, June 4. The fatality is currently under investigation by the Washington County Sheriff
very sorry to hear this,condolences to those there and family.
so it was heaps not behunin.
Ditto...Quote:
Originally Posted by rockgremlin
I wonder if a bolt(s) blew out on him? What a terrifying way to go. My condolences to his family as well.