Re: Best Caliber for Hunting
I hunt with a 243 and love it. But deer is as big as I hunt with it.
If hunting bigger game I shoot a 7mm mag. The 7mm is also good for deer but I prefer to carry the 243 because its lighter and recoil is nil.
I really like the 243 and 7mm because they are flat shooting cartridges.
You will get a lot of various answers to your question. You might as well ask whick is better, blondes or brunettes. :)
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I agree with what everyone has said so far.
But REDFOX mentioned that if anyplace sells ammo, they are going to stock 30-06. That's a great point to consider. If you choose a 30-378 Wetherby Mag. you won't be buying ammo at Wal-Mart (at least the one in Payson :haha:), but you can find plenty of 243, 270, 7mm Mag, 308, '06, 300 Mag, etc. at a reasonable price. Which brings up another point, how much do you want to spend on ammo? It takes practice to have the confidence to place a lethal shot when the time comes. Most of the time tested common calibers have reasonably priced ammo that won't brake the bank to practice, but anything with "MAG" in the name, or anything obscure, will cost more to shoot (unless you decide at some time to start reloading your own).
One other point that hasn't been mentioned much yet is recoil. Let's face it, big guns can be unpleasant to shoot. Doesn't matter one bit if your 338 Rem Ultra Mag can knock an elk down at 1000 yds if you can't hit anything at 100 yds because you flinch every time you shoot it. If you are not used to recoil, I'd choose something that is much more pleasant to shoot. The heavier the bullet, the more powder it takes to propel it down range which increases the felt recoil. A muzzle brake can tame punishing recoil, but the trade off is deafening noise that can be controlled at the range with hearing protection, but in the field not so much.
I would also avoid all the new and improved calibers coming on the scene. Not that there is anything wrong with them, but only because who knows if they are going to survive in 10 years or more. If a factory ceases production on any given caliber of rifle, it will eventually cost more for ammo down the road and may become very hard to find. It seems like all the major manufactures were rushing to unleash the latest and greatest wonder mag and there is just not a big enough market to sustain so many different chamberings. There are a few that seem to fill a niche (like the 270 WSM) that might survive, but for the most part, they are destined to the ranks of obscurity.
Here are my favs and what I like and dislike about them:
30-06 or 270 Win--
Pros: pleasant recoil, ammo availability, adequate for any game in Utah, bullet selection (30-06), almost every manufacturer in the world chambers these
Cons: bullet range is shorter than the mags
7mm Rem Mag
Pros: manageable recoil, ammo availability, more than adequate for Utah game, longer range (very flat shooting), bullet selection, many different manufacturers
Cons: ammo costs more, usually 1 or 2 less rounds in magazine, rifle is usually longer
308 Win
Pros: very inexpensive to practice (mil surplus), ammo availability, pleasant recoil, adequate for any game in Utah, usually shorter more compact rifle, bullet selection, many different manufacturers
Cons: slightly shorter range than 06
7mm-08 Rem
Pros: light recoil, adequate for deer and well placed shots on elk, great caliber for those who don't like recoil
Cons: ammo availability, bullet selection, shorter range
Any "Short Mag"
Pros: more efficient powder burn with less recoil than their "magnum" counterpart ie, 300 Win Short Mag vs. 300 Win Mag, improved accuracy, longer life expectancy of barrel
Cons: expensive ammo, usually only room for 2 or 3 cartridges in magazine, ammo availability, it's anyone's guess if they will be around in 10 years, very limited manufacturers (for example, you can't buy a Winchester Model 70 in 300 Ruger Compact Magnum, etc.)
300 Win Mag/338 Win Mag
Pros: Extended range, more sustained energy downrange, bullet selection, ammo availability, bullet placement is less of an issue
Cons: unpleasant recoil, expensive ammo, usually longer barrel, 1 or 2 less cartridges in magazine
When it comes time to buy, the following link can be helpful to either purchase or decide whether or not you are getting a good deal. Just input what you want or browse the different manufacturers listed at the bottom http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx
I will say that I personally prefer to buy a gently used rifle from a private sale (KSL dot com). Easy to tell if it has been babied or abused and can save a few hundred bucks. Quite often, the rifle will include a very nice scope for next to nothing.
Hope this helps and good luck. :2thumbs:
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I really like the 243 and 7mm because they are flat shooting cartridges.
I agree so I mixed the two and bought a 7mm08. It's same brass as a 243 but holds a 7mm bullet. I love the gun for deer.
If I were in your situation it would be a .270 or 7mm Mag. Both common cartridges, easy and cheaper ammo, flat, accurate and either very capable for Deer or Elk.
And then there is the Optics discussion! What Scope will you be looking at?
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That all sounds like good advice. As far as optics... I was kinda hoping to buy some sort of package deal the rifle and the scope already matched up for me.
If that isn't an option I have looked a little a scopes. 3x9 seems to be a pretty common option at least as far a strength goes. I don't really know brands on the optics either. I guess I should say I am hoping to get purchase made for under 1000, closer to 500 bucks (har har) would be ideal. That is for both the gun and optics.
I guess for that matter, any advice on gun shops that would give a decent price? I have 160 cabelas bucks stored up on my credit card, thanks job, so I am thinking about using that towards it. I do have other things I need/want so if firearms are ridiculously over priced at cabelas I will shop elsewhere.
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Cabelas just sent out their latest sale ad this weekend - good deals on Savage if you have an interest in them. Use your Cabelas $!
The info I found when searching for my gun was to set a budget.. then spend 1/3 on the gun and 2/3 on the optics. I didn't follow this advice... and am already looking to improve the optics! Should have listened.
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Wow been off forum for a while so I'm getting into this game late. I am really a fan of Short Magnum Calibers. I own a .270 WSM in a Tikka Lite, and .300 WSM in a Winchester Coyote Lite. When I was young I hunted everything with a .243 and I mean everything. Though some say I shouldn't have, I killed two bull elk with the .243 and both were killed with well placed shots that dumped them in their tracks. I love my .308 Savage Model 10 heavy barrel, but because I have to pay for a new ATV I am actually selling it. If your interested p.m. me, I have harvested, antelope, deer, and a few Prairie dogs and that's with only having less than 100 rounds through it.
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Thanks for all the advice. In looking online, watching youtube, and talking to people I will probably be able to kill things with just about any caliber and gun. Now it is just a matter of picking one and of course going hunting...
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Here's a pic of my savage .308, I also sent you several pms but my out box does not show it, is my pms getting to you?
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Here's a pic of my savage .308, I also sent you several pms but my out box does not show it, is my pms getting to you?
I have gotten your PMs they seem to be a bit delayed but I am getting them. I am very interested in helping you with your ATV. I sent you a PM.